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Old 05-10-2010 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Here,for the first time outside of Fort Widget, is a view of tha actual software in use.

Crew Sked software
John Stossel once did this thing where he threw darts randomly at a board with all of these companies names on it and then "invested" in them and compared it to the advice of the investment firms. He won. I also heard a bunch of prisoners in NYC won a bet against Wall Street on who could play the stock market the best; the prisoners said it was nothing more than gambling.

Originally Posted by Nosmo King
IIRC, another function of the RLA is to keep you from being taxed by each state that you travel through while you are working...
Not saying throw everything out, just some things out. BTW, I talked to an aviation tax attorney once and he explained how I guess airlines have to deal with the tax issues as they fly through different states. It was down to measuring the time a plane was on the ground in a state by the minute. Not sure if that is true or not but I'll take his word.

I do know however if your corporate jet spends too much time in the state of Florida, and they do absolutely 100% track it especially for turbine equipment, then they'll hit you with their astronomical property taxes.

So Tsquare, you've been warned. Keep yo big jet out of the F-L-A.

Originally Posted by TOGA LK
Man I hope I can stay off reserve, what a mess.
now that the AE is out I think its a good time for me to mention that ALL ATL M88 B FO's are on reserve. All of them.


Originally Posted by Ferd149
Still got all mine. I WAS waiting for $18, maybe I'll rethink that.......
I was waiting for $17.99.
Old 05-10-2010 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Departure time is door closing, not wheels up. The historical definition of availability under normal circumstances is being at the aircraft (not airport or door closed) 2 hours after initial contact attempt. From "When Scheduling Calls":


A pilot on short call is required to be within the general area of his base and promptly available for trip coverage. Since each base has its own particular traffic problems, the term “promptly available” has never been defined in terms of time or distance, and is based upon normal circumstances that can be expected throughout the day or night. Actual realistic response time may vary from base to base and with weather and time of day. It is not possible for a pilot to anticipate and account for abnormal conditions beyond his control, which may extend response time beyond that normally required. Therefore, an NYC pilot encountering a snowstorm or an LAX pilot caught in rush-hour traffic might each require in excess of three hours to sign in and be well within the definition of “promptly available."


Note: For NYC-based pilots, short-call availability may be measured from the pilot’s closest co-terminal (EWR, LGA, JFK), without regard to the actual co-terminal to which he is required to report. For LAX-based pilots, short-call availability is measured from LAX.

If a pilot anticipates an unusual response time, he should inform Crew Scheduling for their planning purposes. Any discussion of “reasonable” should occur only between the pilot, the Chief Pilot, and, possibly, an ALPA representative.

I've always thought it was two hours to sign in. If it was two hours to be at the aircraft then we would really need to be at sign in around an hour after notification. I need two hours to sign in because it takes me about 1:45 to drive to the airport. I always tell them I'll sign in in two hours and they have never said anything about being at the aircraft. I do my best to get there promptly, but I don't think we are expected to sign in less than two hours from notification. When they tell me they need me in an hour I tell them I can't do if you really need someone call the next guy or I'll see you in two hours. Sometimes they call the next guy, sometimes they delay the flight.
Old 05-10-2010 | 12:22 PM
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I am not sure if I qualify as an expert on anything but, I maybe as far as reserve. I have never had a problem or even had any sort of a hint at a problem with short call and reserve. I live 90 minutes from LAX without traffic. Called for SC 4 times in 3 years and only once was it a true short call. Even then they stated please do the best you can.

I think many are getting wrapped around the axle about nothing. Be professional polite and realistic and you wont have a problem. Only time I heard of issues is with guys sitting short call in LAS or RNO or PHX while reserve in LAX. That is just not being professional, realistic and when they do call you may not be all that polite...... Bottom line everyone in scheduling has been nothing but professional polite and understanding.....
Old 05-10-2010 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
I am not sure if I qualify as an expert on anything but, I maybe as far as reserve. I have never had a problem or even had any sort of a hint at a problem with short call and reserve. I live 90 minutes from LAX without traffic. Called for SC 4 times in 3 years and only once was it a true short call. Even then they stated please do the best you can.

I think many are getting wrapped around the axle about nothing. Be professional polite and realistic and you wont have a problem. Only time I heard of issues is with guys sitting short call in LAS or RNO or PHX while reserve in LAX. That is just not being professional, realistic and when they do call you may not be all that polite...... Bottom line everyone in scheduling has been nothing but professional polite and understanding.....
Wrapped around the axle is putting it mildly. I've been with this company 20 + years and when I was on reserve and it was a tight show time I just told them so! The 2 hour rule is not a big deal. Let this part of the thread die!
Old 05-10-2010 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
I've always thought it was two hours to sign in. If it was two hours to be at the aircraft then we would really need to be at sign in around an hour after notification. I need two hours to sign in because it takes me about 1:45 to drive to the airport. I always tell them I'll sign in in two hours and they have never said anything about being at the aircraft. I do my best to get there promptly, but I don't think we are expected to sign in less than two hours from notification. When they tell me they need me in an hour I tell them I can't do if you really need someone call the next guy or I'll see you in two hours. Sometimes they call the next guy, sometimes they delay the flight.
I'm pretty much a pro at this reserve thing...

When they try to tell me that it's "2 hours to launch," I always take the opportunity to educate them that it's """"2 hours""""" to sign in. That is a gentleman's understanding of that ONLY. I live 50 minutes away and even if I was sitting in my uniform, it would still take me an hour and a half to guaranteed sign-in (thanks, employee bus!).
Many time's it's a few minutes less, but I give them reasonable.

When they start getting their panties in a wad, I can quickly become like them trying to drag a cat and throw him in a bathtub. I'm not their rag doll, and you can't rush safety.

I'm courteous with them and professional, but the fact is it is not their place to lecture you on anything. They are not your boss- the CP is your boss.

Not to mention, when they get on the 2 hours to launch thing, if they start really pushing it- just ask them for a chapter and verse quote. (it doesn't exist ) That typically quiets them very quick if you get one with an ego.
Old 05-10-2010 | 12:53 PM
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Regarding the NMB rule change:
I know this is not a popular view among hard core unionists, but having a flight attendant union on the property would be nothing but bad news for Delta pilots.
Old 05-10-2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Regarding the NMB rule change:
I know this is not a popular view among hard core unionists, but having a flight attendant union on the property would be nothing but bad news for Delta pilots.
Agree 100%! Less of the pie for us! BUT REMEBER... The FA's are very highly educated, have a skill, very difficult to attain, and have put 1000's of hours into their training to safely do their job w/o killing anyone...
Old 05-10-2010 | 01:10 PM
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Check;
Like many have said, it is their decision.
Old 05-10-2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Regarding the NMB rule change:
I know this is not a popular view among hard core unionists, but having a flight attendant union on the property would be nothing but bad news for Delta pilots.
Regardless, this will hopefully get people more involved in the voting/education of the issues. No longer will someone too irresponsible to vote count as a 'No' vote.
Old 05-10-2010 | 02:19 PM
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So is only a simple majority now needed to de-certifie the union?
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