One would think that is a judgement call wrt to being close to a balanced field. I guess that's why captains used to get the big bucks. The nice thing is is that I cannot think of many runways where this is a factor. Many of our runways are much longer than required.

The issue you bring up however should enter into the captains go/no-go thinking in that at speeds approaching tire limit speeds could possibly be more of a factor if a tire blows near V1. At those speeds (although I have never experienced a tire blowout on takeoff) I would think there would be lots of shake-rattle and rollin'... This was talked about a lot when we started doing flaps 5 takeoffs at DALs. As far as I know, it hasn't proven to be any sort of issue, but it's good that you are thinking about it, captain. :cool:

It would be a better idea to make a decision BEFORE it closes.. but that's just my opinion. :D

Sorry, We lost our opportunity and leverage to retain #1 and #3 and other goodies from the old fNW contract when LOA19 was signed. :(

<<but it's good that you are thinking about it, captain. >>

Not me.........I'm just Gilligan, Skipper

T, you are right! I'll have to look next time I fly a 757-300, but does AWABS give you a 15 vs 5 option if it thinks you can do 5?

I was one of the guys who over speed the tires on an early hybrid AWABS flight from LAS to MSP. We wrote it up, filed a NASAP and about a week later we went back to flaps 15 for all takeoffs on the -300. The memo we got said tire speed was taken into account in AWABS but, wow your doing between around 175 for V1 as I recall.

Ferd

As an old boss in the USAF taught me........."not to decide is to decide":D

Delta don't hire copilots son... :D

It is true that you can be haulin' down the asphalt in some cases... I no nuttin' about the longbody, so maybe it's more of a factor there, and I will look into that. For the south airplanes, I cannot recall any time that I would consider using 15 instead of 5 for T/O. I think that most S guys are pretty confident in the AWABS and if it works we use it. I'm on vacation right now, and I'm not sure about the 15 option. I think it will only give you flaps 5.. but maybe you can ask for a 15 T/O via ACARS. I will look into that when I go back to work.. and try to remember to let you know. Send me a PM if you would and that will refresh my memory.

Think it closed at 0800 this morning.:o

You missed FTB's friendly reminder, but if you're on reserve like me you don't get anything you ask for anyway so it doesn't matter.:p

Thanks T, sure will. I'm off to CDG with the MSP Chief Pilot.....again (thank gawd he's a great guy) and another LCA (we are going to get them for 6 months on the MSP-CDG-MSP rotation...a good thing)

Seeeeeeeee yaaaaaaa allllllll,

Ferd

Just trying to figure things out. As Scambo says we should be flying Cost index and air speed on a transpac and that was what we were getting. But then yesterday we got the constant .85 mach with no changes in cost index. Funny thing is we plugged in ECON(the old way we used to fly) and is gave an arrival time of 3 minutes earlier. Next time will call the dispatcher to see what the reason is. Probably trying to make up time.