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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 812194)
Between new equipment and pilots who retire or medical out early the advancements at the airline should be quite a bit faster then a straight retirement curve. Historically it always has been. 50 percent of pilots did not make it to age 60 because of medicals or early retirements. There will not be a lot of early outs on the Delta side but should be some from the NWA side. The medicals will continue as always. 62.5 is based on no early retirements but the normal amount of medical retirements.
There may be some new metal sooner then some think. I will not however be a 100 seat aircraft. The 100 seater is never coming to the mainline. Management still does not feel they can fly a aircraft with less then 140 seats at the mainline except in some limited situations. They have felt this way since 1991 and nothing has changed today. There may however be some interesting moves on the top side for equipment. Perhaps as early as 2011 and yes the scope issues are a issue in the new equipment and holding up any announcements. You better explain the scope side of this. (Are you referring to the 777-300 and fences, or scope? There is a difference) |
Originally Posted by Imapilot2
(Post 812201)
OK I can't get a straight answer for this. I had nine days of reserve in a row. A few former NWA friends of mine said they needed to call me and put me to rest for 24 hours and long call doesn't count for that rest. I worked or was on short call for 8 of the 9 days and one long call day. Former NWA friends that's bull, they needed to call me and give me 24 off. I called scheduling and they said there is no such rule. Hmmm?
Of course, it wouldn't suprise me if they try to argue that you aren't on duty so they don't have to. Which is funny because as it been explained to me we receive 12 hours notice so you an have 9 hours of REST & 3 hours to report. Hmmmmm. Why would you need rest if you're not on duty? There has been some fishy stuff going on with scheduling. Seems they get bend the rule to their advantage. Another that cracks me up is that they have to gives us 12 hours notice on while on long call so we can have rest, but SC isn't duty so we don't need rest. Yeah, the FAA rest rules aren't jacked up at all. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Roadie85
(Post 812205)
How often do these AE bids come out? I hear something about another bid coming out in the fall.
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
(Post 812213)
AFAIR, AF does not upgrade nonrevs. Even their own.
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
(Post 812201)
OK I can't get a straight answer for this. I had nine days of reserve in a row.
Many airlines do not see "reserve" as "duty." They therefore consider it similar to rest, because no where does it say that reserve isn't rest. With reserve (similar to rest) they're fine with 9 in a row, or assigning you a back to back international red eye at the end of your window of short call availability. Some people like it that way to group their reserve days together. ALPA and the airlines are waiting for the FAA to come along and provide some definitions in the "new" mandatory crew rest regulations which keep getting pushed back. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 812220)
With new hire classes in August it's likely we will see another one around then. JMO.
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
(Post 812211)
When you worked in that 8 days, did you have a layover that was over 24 hrs?
Nope, not even close. |
Here's a graph of retirements at Delta - it ends at 2036, 'cause that's when I retire.
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...6at95853AM.png Ok - got it to load. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 812229)
The computer will not let me put together more than 6 days in a row, unless this just changed under LOA.
Many airlines do not see "reserve" as "duty." They therefore consider it similar to rest, because no where does it say that reserve isn't rest. With reserve (similar to rest) they're fine with 9 in a row, or assigning you a back to back international red eye at the end of your window of short call availability. Some people like it that way to group their reserve days together. ALPA and the airlines are waiting for the FAA to come along and provide some definitions in the "new" mandatory crew rest regulations which keep getting pushed back. So it was a FNWA item to put you to rest for 24 in a nine day reserve sched. and that does not apply any longer? Something that was contractual that we lost in the transition? |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 812180)
Maybe. Every 60p I have flown with has said they are staying to 65. Why? They have no other choice. They cannot retire. Many hope the age gets abolished.
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