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Yes, satch, I have seen it. 24 SC and you get a call in the last two hrs for a 12 hr international trip that leaves in a few hrs. It is 100% legal contractually and FAR wise.

It also happens in the domestic 12 hr SC callout world too. When a aircraft will be dispatched using Flag rules, Whitlow does not apply. MAO is a great example. You are in the last few hrs of SC and they call you for a trip that reports outside of your SC window to fly all night on a two man care. Yep, it is legal too. Whitlow does not apply.

Watch for it, you will see it happening regularly this summer.

I've always wondered about that. Can they call you to report after your SC assignment is over? Sounds like BS to me.

DAL330drvr

05-16-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 812402)

Just delete the entire line and hit enter. Should delete the line.

330;
You living in Crew Planning? :D

Got it second hand this time. :D

acl65pilot

05-16-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 812457)

I've always wondered about that. Can they call you to report after your SC assignment is over? Sounds like BS to me.

I do not see why they cannot. SC is defined as the time in which said pilot needs to be readily available. It does not state that this is the time in which report will occur. For that reason a International pilot or a domestic pilot called upon to do a flight operated by Flag rules does not have the whitlow requirements or clarification as a backstop.

I have know of at least two times where a pilot was within their last half hr of SC when they were called to complete a international trip. By definition they had to be readily available for a trip, were called and reported. Duty or rest time is not an issue. Even more so if it is a DH. (Of note they can do this to a domestic pilot if the callout is for a DH in CONUS)

acl65pilot

05-16-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 812454)

Yep, hoping to hold onto LAX. Hopefully, SEA will create some movement out. If not, 73 or 320 to SLC.

In the end who knows. With over 12000 pilots with 12000 different ways to game an AE, it is anyone's best guess as to who the chips will fall.

I have a MD in. Frankly four events is enough and has me looking at commuting instead of down bidding again. It is enticing since the trips will all be same day commute on both ends. The only sticking point is it is NYC......:eek:

Guess I will find out within 48 hrs.

satchip

05-16-2010 05:23 PM

I've heard that you can't be short called to DH. Was that an urban myth?

acl65pilot

05-16-2010 05:26 PM

They can SC you for any trip they want. As I understand it, it is immaterial if it starts with a DH. I have done it many times.

Of note as a SC pilot realize that they will tell you what the trip is, and if there is a DH. If the first leg is a DH it only has a +30 show for on line and 1+30 for off line. I always tell them that it will take 2+ hrs to report. If that causes conflict then they will need to readjust.

In short an urban myth. A friend just got called for a DH tonight while they were sitting SC.

Justdoinmyjob

05-16-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 812466)

I've heard that you can't be short called to DH. Was that an urban myth?

I've been called out on a SC to DH before.

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