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Old 06-17-2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Why would you wish that on the poor LAX guys? I vote for Buzz!

I can't write, and I have a temper......all the things that made me so loved/successful in a USAF staff job.

But, I do drink beer and tell stupid jokes and stories..........a perfect pilot
How about you and Buzz become co Fo reps.
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
How about you and Buzz become co Fo reps.
Good cop Bad cop..............and Buzz can do all the writing, we may have a weeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnerrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Ok Johnso, Super, and the others from F-NWA that are effected by this DC issue; Did you vote Yes, or No on the PWA?
The ones it affects couldn't vote. Ironic eh?
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Again, of the 07-08 hires who want this fixed who voted for the PWA? I am not trying to be smug, but I know the answer.
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I was on probation so I could not vote. I called my rep and voiced my disagreement. His answer was "don't fixate on one item, look at the whole package" I would have voted NO!!!
Same here. I'm sure there were reps in our corner but we couldn't vote.
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Ok Johnso, Super, and the others from F-NWA that are effected by this DC issue; Did you vote Yes, or No on the PWA?

There is no "line item" way to vote. You already had yours with LOA 19. Just because you vote yes on a contract does not mean that you agree with everything in it. It just means that you think that not approving it will result in something worse. Please stop throwing this question in our faces whenever someone complains about the Joint PWA.
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:50 PM
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We couldn't vote, all of us were still on probation. That was probably why it was left as is. I raised concerns about it, but they were never addressed.
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Waves
To jab: Please refresh my memory on the FNWA 07/08 exclusion. The last thing I remember about that issue was pulling up the ladder. Just kidding of course. I’m all for equality and fairness. If it means getting something changed, then so be it. I spent way too many years (I think it was either 3 or 5) on a B scale.
Exclusion is the wrong word....Exception is accurate. It's all over Section 26 among others.

We are essentially on a B scale. I know what I signed up for with Nwa, it's where I wanted to be. However, once Delta hires new pilots they will receive higher DC contributions and longevity date on DOH than current 3/4 year pilots.
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
How long are you gonna keep dredging this up?
I'm guessing about 16 more years.
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:59 PM
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Just a reminder to the '07 '08 NWA hires who think that this longevity thing is just them, NO fNWA pilot has their Date of Hire for a longevity date. All of us have an adjusted longevity date using whatever method NWA was using when we were hired. I was hired in Feb. of '00 and my longevity date for pay is sometime in June now.

On the other hand, after the first year, you spend 12 months at each pay step for the next 11 years, just like everyone else. It affected us once, it doesn't affect you again each year. Vacation and everything else seems to be at DOH for everyone now.

I do understand and agree with you on the DC issue however.

It is not just 200 guys, it is every fNWA pilot...
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:59 PM
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Fair enough, but have you asked your reps why they allowed this to stay? From what I have been told the former NWA reps are the ones that worked this side of the deal. I could be wrong though.

My point was that everyone what happy as heck with the JPWA, and this item was even discussed some 30K posts ago.

MEM, I agree with what you are saying, and there is never a perfect agreement, but issues that deal with pay and retirement generally are deal breakers. This are the two issues that we are talking about today.
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