Originally Posted by 8CherryGarcia

Quick frustrating Icrew question: I keep getting "out of Sync" messages when trying to input slip requests....***??if there some secret code or setting to prevent this

Originally Posted by nwa757

Can you elaborate more... we are not sure we follow you and how this plays in with the potential sale of Mesaba to Skywest/ASA?

14 Freedom 900s (terminated)
36 Compass 175s
16 Shuttle/Republic 175s
= 66 jets

153 - 85 (see below) = 68 jets


SCOPE:

40. “Permitted aircraft type” means:
a. a propeller-driven aircraft configured with 70 or fewer passenger seats and with a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 70,000 or fewer pounds, and
b. a jet aircraft certificated for operation in the United States for 50 or fewer passenger seats and with a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 65,000 or fewer pounds, and
c. one of up to 255 jet aircraft configured with 51-70 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less (“70-seat jets”), and
d. one of up to 120 jet aircraft configured with 71-76 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less (“76-seat jets”). The number of 76-seat jets may be increased above 120 by three 76-seat jets for each aircraft above the number of aircraft in the baseline fleet operated by the Company (in service, undergoing maintenance and operational spares) as of October 30, 2008. The baseline fleet number will be 440+N, in which N is the number of aircraft (in service, undergoing maintenance and operational spares but not including permitted aircraft types) added to the Company’s baseline
fleet from NWA. The number and type of all aircraft in the Company’s fleet on October 30, 2008 will be provided to the Association. The number of 70-seat jets plus 76-seat jets permitted by Section 1 B. 40. may not exceed 255.
Exception: Up to the 36 EMB-175s that were operated and/or ordered by Northwest prior to October 30, 2008 may continue to be operated with up to a maximum gross takeoff weight of 89,000 pounds.
e. once the number of permitted 76-seat jets is established, it will not be reduced.
Exception one: If a pilot on the seniority list with an employment date prior to September 1, 2001 is placed on furlough, the Company will convert all 76-seat jets for operation as 70-seat jets.
Exception two: In the event the flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 and LOA 2006-14 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such LOAs or at another carrier, the number of jet aircraft configured with 71-76 passenger seats specified in Section 1 B. 40. d. will revert to 85.




I think I see what you may be getting at, but maybe not. Does the 70 seat CRJ700s having seats taken out to add first class have anything to do with the change in these numbers?

Originally Posted by ranger3484

I've seen that from time to time. It seems to only occur with really slow internet connections. That's the only time I've seen it.

ranger

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

It does not deal directly with the Mesaba deal except that the numbers will be very close to the 85 that is required in the kickback provision if the flows are canceled or becomes unavailable.

Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18

There is another way to get rid of the flows.

If mesabas assets are sold to skywest, or the flying is simply transfered, the pilots and the contract would be gone. The flow would then be gone as well.

Same thing could happen at compass as well.

Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob

If they disband Compass to sell the assets off, then they lose the 36 airframe, 89,000lbs carve out. Not in management's best interest to do that.