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Gunfighter 08-31-2010 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 863556)
AE today???? Anyone??? Anyone???

It's too early for that much anticipation. Wait at least a week before starting the hourly refresh of the Flight Ops page.

redblueskies 08-31-2010 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 863566)
Sure is nice to see the 30 new names on the category list under NBC / NEW / B PILOTS! Keep em coming......

I think this is the first month since the merger I haven't moved up a single number due to a retirement or whatever, so that makes them even more welcome. Let's keep the relative seniority increasing one way or another. Looks like a minimum of 54 new people added to the list.

johnso29 08-31-2010 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 863589)
It's too early for that much anticipation. Wait at least a week before starting the hourly refresh of the Flight Ops page.

Haven't even touched the Flight Ops page. Just opening up the pool for bets. :D

Pineapple Guy 08-31-2010 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by redblueskies (Post 863590)
I think this is the first month since the merger I haven't moved up a single number due to a retirement or whatever, so that makes them even more welcome. Let's keep the relative seniority increasing one way or another. Looks like a minimum of 54 new people added to the list.

The category list uses the current month's seniority numbers (I.E. it shows Sep categories using Aug seniority numbers). Look for a September seniority list out in a few days. You'll probably move up a few after all!

Denny Crane 08-31-2010 07:39 AM

For you contract interpreters out there.........If you have a certain HR executive vice president say (As part of a statement about union vs nonunion compensation): In addition, he says, Delta already plans to raise salaries, an expense accounted for in future estimates. "We've already built into our models that we will be at or above the industry standard for pay and benefits," XXXXXXXX says. "And we are bringing everyone up to that level by Oct. 1."

I'm assuming this will be for the non-union workforce which, in my estimation, could trigger a section in our contract that deals with 30% of the non-union workforce getting a raise. (Look at Section 3 after the Pay Tables.)

If this is the case and the review is triggered, which American and Continental pay rates would be used? American has seperate rates for the the 767 and 757. Continental has widebody vs long narrowbody rates. Our rates for the two are the same........

Granted, we probably would not see anything unless the "New United" JCBA has significant gains in pay, but it is an 18 month window so it could be possible.

Any thoughts?

Denny

Check Essential 08-31-2010 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by rahc (Post 863558)
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Actually here's the 2009 attendance for the NCAA (Big 10 teams in red)

Interesting stats.
Big Ten 1,2,3. And the next 3 Big Ten teams (Wisconsin, Iowa, Mich St) would be much higher on the list if their stadium capacity allowed it. They sell out pretty much every game.

Gotta admit however, the same could be said of several SEC teams.
Every game a sell out.

redblueskies 08-31-2010 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 863592)
The category list uses the current month's seniority numbers (I.E. it shows Sep categories using Aug seniority numbers). Look for a September seniority list out in a few days. You'll probably move up a few after all!

Ah nice, I was hoping that was the case. It was hard to believe not a single guy left the list for one reason or another.

N9373M 08-31-2010 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 863619)
Interesting stats.
Big Ten 1,2,3. And the next 3 Big Ten teams (Wisconsin, Iowa, Mich St) would be much higher on the list if their stadium capacity allowed it. They sell out pretty much every game.

Gotta admit however, the same could be said of several SEC teams.
Every game a sell out.

At least until half time :)
South Carolina Grad and Fan

Pineapple Guy 08-31-2010 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 863612)
For you contract interpreters out there.........If you have a certain HR executive vice president say (As part of a statement about union vs nonunion compensation): In addition, he says, Delta already plans to raise salaries, an expense accounted for in future estimates. "We've already built into our models that we will be at or above the industry standard for pay and benefits," XXXXXXXX says. "And we are bringing everyone up to that level by Oct. 1."

I'm assuming this will be for the non-union workforce which, in my estimation, could trigger a section in our contract that deals with 30% of the non-union workforce getting a raise. (Look at Section 3 after the Pay Tables.)

If this is the case and the review is triggered, which American and Continental pay rates would be used? American has seperate rates for the the 767 and 757. Continental has widebody vs long narrowbody rates. Our rates for the two are the same........

Granted, we probably would not see anything unless the "New United" JCBA has significant gains in pay, but it is an 18 month window so it could be possible.

Any thoughts?

Denny

Denny, probably not too much interpretation required. Here's the contract language from Section 3 B. 4. "If, as a result of that review, it is determined that, as of the date the review was triggered, the Delta top-of-scale 757 Captain composite hourly rate is less than 100% of the average of the top-of-scale 757 Captain hourly domestic day rates at United, American, USAir and Continental, the pilot composite hourly rates will be increased".

I'm no lawyer, but that seems pretty clear to me. ;)

alfaromeo 08-31-2010 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 863612)
For you contract interpreters out there.........If you have a certain HR executive vice president say (As part of a statement about union vs nonunion compensation): In addition, he says, Delta already plans to raise salaries, an expense accounted for in future estimates. "We've already built into our models that we will be at or above the industry standard for pay and benefits," XXXXXXXX says. "And we are bringing everyone up to that level by Oct. 1."

I'm assuming this will be for the non-union workforce which, in my estimation, could trigger a section in our contract that deals with 30% of the non-union workforce getting a raise. (Look at Section 3 after the Pay Tables.)

If this is the case and the review is triggered, which American and Continental pay rates would be used? American has seperate rates for the the 767 and 757. Continental has widebody vs long narrowbody rates. Our rates for the two are the same........

Granted, we probably would not see anything unless the "New United" JCBA has significant gains in pay, but it is an 18 month window so it could be possible.

Any thoughts?

Denny

Here is what I get from APC for 757 rates (CO is large narrowbody):

DL : 175
AMR : 174
CO : 169
UA : 159
US : 144

Average of other 4 is 161.50. We would need some big gains by CO/UA to bring up the average. Interesting question is whether after the merger, the CO/UA rate will be counted once in the average with three carriers, or twice in the average with four carriers. We get another 4% in Jan 2011 and Jan 2012 so that will require even bigger gains by CO/UA. Here's to hoping.


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