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Old 09-30-2010 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Yes, & SARS too.
Dirty Buggers!
Old 09-30-2010 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
They also have some of the greatest health risks (Malaria, Dengue Fever, etc.) yet there is no additional pay. This MUST be addressed in our next contract.
Add it to the list, page 926.
Old 09-30-2010 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK
Nu,

Lots of reasons why we won't be one pilot group for some time. My reason is tied up with Moak writing a letter to the pilot group, after not hearing from him for two years, to only find out he wants a national ALPA pension and oayraise. My main grief with his Black Swan series is the MEC's complete ignorance in the fact that not all pilots are getting a 13% retirement benefit. Yes about five different retirement programs out there, but there are 180 fNWA pilots getting 7% DC and 2% 401k while newhires are getting 12% this year and 13% next year.

For reasons like this DAL is a job, no more special than the last one. Really hoping Lee gets the boot and DAL pilots get some meaningful representation by an organization with mainline interests at heart
At APA the union voted to change the policy to mirror ALPA in that the LECs vote for the MEC chairman, it was soundly defeated.

Time for regime change at a minimum and better yet an in-house union.

Of course you will end up with a lot more retirement then the new hires you talk about because you received a large chunk of money to front load that account via the stock negotiated. A new hire will not get dime. Front loading 40k in a DC retirement plan is worth far more then the difference in DC ongoing funding. I would have preferred it was the same for everyone and it was in the first joint contract. Why the NWA negotiating team allowed the change I don't know. It all becomes equal in two years. The second joint contract had reductions in many areas including the first pay raise. I realize you will not be getting anything from the NWA pilot retirement plan but the funding requirement for that plan have been huge and have far exceeded what a former Delta pilot is getting in DC money since the merger.
Old 09-30-2010 | 07:04 AM
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Hmmmm. Richard and Bill are hanging out.

Delta makes PDX nonstops to Amsterdam and Tokyo permanent, eyes Paris | OregonLive.com
Old 09-30-2010 | 07:11 AM
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Well, since others commented I'll comment, the posts below are beneath that which all of us would expect of a Delta pilot. So I'm with Carl.

Originally Posted by Imapilot2
I must say that the north pilots are like kids in a candy store with the new sick policy, Just call in sick when you don't want to work and you never need a doctor note. Not like the notes you needed before after the first call. What notes? Don't like the new commute policy, that is ok just call in sick at the last minute. Really? I wonder how long it will last before we (who is we?) lose it.
Originally Posted by Imapilot2
Everything is hearsay, per say (se) but this isn't from cockpit talk No kidding. if that is what you are getting at. I bet money our "policy" is on the block to change due to the abuse. change why, when and how?
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Ok ,first I never said that the commute policy was in jeopardy it was the sick policy. Second it has nothing to do with like or dislike anyone. As far as all of you saying that I am being divisive than i must be since I repeated what was said to me. by whom? I am not in any dept. to give you numbers or names, I never claimed to. Repeated what I heard, and yup that is all I did. If you like to think I made it up or changed what I was told then fine. Some of these dept. are small and saying who said it to gain your trust is silly. I couldn't care less if you think it is someone in the know or not. FWIW it is. Take it or leave it. We'll leave it. And yes they specifically said it was mostly north guys not making commutes and calling in at the last minute. Really? BTW.......I think that everyone of you wear funny shoes.
All of this dribble above is a big FAIL.

On a serious note, if Delta pilots are abusing the sick policy then Delta management and DALPA will deal with it one at a time. End of story.
Old 09-30-2010 | 07:22 AM
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Well said FTB. I've been impressed by how DAL handles sick leave. They believe you. It's all about what they look for in all of us - integrity.

Now back to some real issues - like who would like some bar-b-qued Bevo??
Old 09-30-2010 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50

Makes a lot of sense, yes?
Old 09-30-2010 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
Well said FTB. I've been impressed by how DAL handles sick leave. They believe you. It's all about what they look for in all of us - integrity.

Now back to some real issues - like who would like some bar-b-qued Bevo??
Old 09-30-2010 | 07:45 AM
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Hoping you would notice Super!

Wish I could be in Dallas but will have to hope to be able to watch from the road.
Old 09-30-2010 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
Hoping you would notice Super!

Wish I could be in Dallas but will have to hope to be able to watch from the road.
Yeah I'll be working but i get to my overnight early enough Saturday to watch it. I'll be honest, after last weeks UCLA game, i'm worried. Our team needs to find its new identity post Colt McCoy. We've got alot of talent, it just needs to all be put together. I'm looking forward to what the team should be as they mature. Either way, I'm looking forward to the game!!

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