Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 878846)

FRONTLINE: flying cheap: interviews: gordon bethune | PBS


Really? You think $16,000 a year as a starting salary for a first officer is enough?


Can I tell you how they get to that, just so that the public knows? Every three or four years, there's contract negotiations between labor groups and the company. The company says: "We can afford to pay this much money. This is total dollars. How would you like to allocate it?"

Well, you only get so much money. How much would you like to allocate? Would you like to have every pilot get $2 less than ours so we could pay the first-year people this much, or would you rather have the $2 an hour in your paycheck and let the first-year people go probationary as they are, like every other, and you were? And that's what they elect to do. ...

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 878921)

There is good and bad to this type of negotiation. Positive is you know the value of the contract up front, the negative is you can be killed by a thousand paper cuts.

It is IBB style where the total value is determined but we get killed on the costing of each item. I would be careful about what you wish for. The corporation love this style because the work takes place on the other side of the table and they can then just argue that the cost assigned to each item it not correct.

Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 878965)

BTW, how many southies know that the NHL's regular season starts Oct. 7th?? .

Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 878928)

That's impressive to say the least...

Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 878986)

Al Gore always flew coach. Nothing impressive in that or RA

Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 878986)

Al Gore always flew coach. Nothing impressive in that or RA

Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 878848)

You must not know many people who actually work there :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 878922)

If I recall he got that position a little over a year ago.

It is always nice to see someone enjoy their job and the challenges that go with it. It took a 75% pay cut to come here to do what he loves. I know to pilots that will irk some but it is true.

Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 879016)

The weather is a changin' in MSP. Check out the latest ATIS up in Da North eh!!

office alert - **contains naughty words**

YouTube - MSP ATIS During Severe T-Storm