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johnso29 10-06-2010 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 880857)
Does anyone know how backed up the A320 school is? I was supposed to be in school for November but no word yet. I'm converted in December so I may get the holidays off if they are more than a month or two behind.

Well, I know a newhire who started class on August 16th & he is still waiting for sims.

georgetg 10-06-2010 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 880875)
I would love to see some large lift here at DAL. I just know that there are a ton of airlines in SkyTeam and many of them have large fleets in this lift range. We do but to a lesser degree. What we would also be looking at is a 748 airframe. I do beleive that DAL will see 777-300's, maybe a few more 744's, and the 789. (Maybe some smaller jets as well for the international market)

The 789, and 350 are going to prove to be a backbones of most international fleets for airlines that perform a lot of point to point work. The impression I have from the AF/KLM/DAL JV growth to date and the ability of AF/KLM to do point to point to Europe we will be the carrier that does most of this flying in this JV.
Pacific wise, absent a Japanese entrant to SkyTeam, we will probably see increasing demand for heavy lift capability. (773,744,748)

Looking at the remainder of the SkyTeam portfolio, economic regions have a presence. For DAL pilots Asia is where an opportunity exists. Europe to the lesser degree.

I agree Asia will be the future growth market...

The big deal is that Network has a big portfolio of jets to rightsize for each AC and Market, this is an unbelievable opportunity going forward that will give DAL a leg up on our stregthening domestic competitors.

This is nothing new though

LH and AF pioneered the diverse fleet concepts with both flying nearly every jet made by Boeing and Airbus with a few exceptions.

Leaving Cargo/Pax behind is a revenue opportunity lost.
Flying a jet with 30% empty seats or not fully loaded with cargo is not sustainable long term...

I wouldn't be surprised to see the 747-8i in Delta colors down the road

Cheers
George

georgetg 10-06-2010 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 880874)
....Alaska merger in 3, 2, 1,

[snip]

Transportation
American Airlines: More to Come at LAX

[/snip]

Odds probably better than even now.

Nice find my friend, the consolidation round two has just begun...
Good to see AMR focus on LAX, maybe DAL mgmt will start to notice us out here in "Alaska Feed" country...

VA mgrs flocking to Spirit as well.
I'm getting the popcorn...

Cheers
George

georgetg 10-06-2010 01:14 PM

HA trading higher at nearly 400% average daily volume...

Cheers
George

acl65pilot 10-06-2010 01:16 PM

George;
I too hope that we see the 748i here, and I do beleive that this is very possible.

Heck I even have an artist rendition of it in DAL colors I got from a Boeing buddy, but that does not mean that Skyteam may put the 748i at a carrier like AF and keep us doing point to point on smaller jets.

sailingfun 10-06-2010 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 880891)
I agree Asia will be the future growth market...

The big deal is that Network has a big portfolio of jets to rightsize for each AC and Market, this is an unbelievable opportunity going forward that will give DAL a leg up on our stregthening domestic competitors.

This is nothing new though

LH and AF pioneered the diverse fleet concepts with both flying nearly every jet made by Boeing and Airbus with a few exceptions.

Leaving Cargo/Pax behind is a revenue opportunity lost.
Flying a jet with 30% empty seats or not fully loaded with cargo is not sustainable long term...

I wouldn't be surprised to see the 747-8i in Delta colors down the road

Cheers
George


I do find I have to laugh about our fleet. 5 years ago the company was putting out that Delta could not survive unless it got down to 3 fleets types. 73NG, 757/767 and 777's. I was at one roadshow where they said the airline had no chance of survival unless this happened fast and that is why they were dumping the 737-200 and 300's so quick.
Fast forward to a roadshow in June. Same group explaining how our diversified fleet gives us the advantage over other airlines. Management can spin things any way they want. Delta has a huge fleet renewal task ahead of them and it needs to start sooner rather then later. Capital costs will soar in the out years if they don't get some new metal soon. It wont matter to me but just like our lack of customer service the bottom half of the seniority list will pay for it. Delta has two critical needs. Improve customer service to at least average from terrible and start renewing the fleet. I fear management is to focused on the short term and not looking far enough into the out years.

As far as new 747's Delta was already offered a tremendous deal to be the launch customer for passenger version of the 747-800. We passed on the chance and Lufthansa stepped up to the plate. Its going to cost more now however is still not selling well!

acl65pilot 10-06-2010 01:51 PM

Sailing, as you know both are qualified statements. The first was with the original DAL route structure and the second is with the diversified route structure we now have. Being bigger gives us the ability to be profitable while having a diverse fleet!

acl65pilot 10-06-2010 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 880905)
HA trading higher at nearly 400% average daily volume...

Cheers
George


If it were me, HA would be my first target, AS the second, and the NKS route authorities third.

Superpilot92 10-06-2010 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 880888)
Well, I know a newhire who started class on August 16th & he is still waiting for sims.

he hasnt even started systems yet either.....:eek:

georgetg 10-06-2010 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 880912)
I do find I have to laugh about our fleet. 5 years ago the company was putting out that Delta could not survive unless it got down to 3 fleets types. 73NG, 757/767 and 777's. I was at one roadshow where they said the airline had no chance of survival unless this happened fast and that is why they were dumping the 737-200 and 300's so quick.
Fast forward to a roadshow in June. Same group explaining how our diversified fleet gives us the advantage over other airlines. Management can spin things any way they want. Delta has a huge fleet renewal task ahead of them and it needs to start sooner rather then later. Capital costs will soar in the out years if they don't get some new metal soon. It wont matter to me but just like our lack of customer service the bottom half of the seniority list will pay for it. Delta has two critical needs. Improve customer service to at least average from terrible and start renewing the fleet. I fear management is to focused on the short term and not looking far enough into the out years.

As far as new 747's Delta was already offered a tremendous deal to be the launch customer for passenger version of the 747-800. We passed on the chance and Lufthansa stepped up to the plate. Its going to cost more now however is still not selling well!

You know its funny I just cant tell you two apart... ;)

I agree with you 100% on improving customer service but until we back up our desire with action we still have a long way to go...

I'm glad the top guys are focusing on debt reduction and de-leveraging the DAL balance sheet. That is what will save this company long term.

You can fly the most efficient jet but if you're receipts are just servicing debt for the first 25 days of the month it won't matter at all.

There's simply no compelling new aircraft available today to replace any one of our aging types.

The 787-9 and A350 have promise but aren't available yet. I'm certain in time we will see either or both of them in the fleet
The 787-8 is a lost cause at this point as its difficult if not impossible to make a business case for the type at DAL...

As a combined carrier, DAL is large enough to have a diverse fleet and make it work.

Right now the MD90s are the best thing going because they offer comparable lift and burn of the 737-800 or A320 at a less than 1/4 the cost...

The interior renewal efforts, in particular the Panasonic/Weber Fusion seats for the 744, 7ER and MD90, are another one of those things that will have a big impact on the customer experience...

Cheers
George


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