Budapest evidently. We can all do this and my argument is this for us, without regard to what happened here, no heads down during taxi.

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Runaway trim

This is a real problem. Gate agent are now to have the numbers in the computer at D-7... So they get a delay if this is not done. I asked several ACS in ATL about this and they said yep they cannot reopen a flight after D-7 w/o getting a delay. So if they said they will not add people after have closed the flight. Even with 6mins left. Seems counterintuitive to me.

So what's the point of being able to block out 5mins early with people still at the gate?

This last trip I got most of WDRs 5-6min b4 sched dept. Who knows how many tight conx ( that could have used 5mins more) we left behind.

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Carl, I don't know about other fleets, but the WDR Bulliten for the 88 does say that the performance checklist can not be completed till after the completion of the afterstart checklist.

I don't have the bulliiten with me. Maybe someone does....

From the DC-9 FCB 10-03, page 6: "Performance data loading may be accomplished at the gate, if the WDR is available; however, the Performance Checklist may not be completed until after the PUSHBACK/START and AFTER START checklists are complete. At no time should performance data loading conflict with other critical duties such as pushback (two pilot crew) or taxi."

Wasn't this because of final flap check?

Sig, thanks for the heads up.

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IDK.... We check that flaps on the taxi, and before t/o checks. Idk why the preformance checks can't be done when u get the WDR. Long as the a/c isn't moving.

I'm glad they included this in the DC-9 FCB, my next question is what are we loading. Did somebody add a FMC to the DC-9 and not tell me? I guess the memo and video are coming next week....:rolleyes: