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Originally Posted by StormChaser (Post 890267)

For those inquiring minds that would like to know, sounds like the breakdown for the class that started today went:

11 MSP 88
2 NYC 88
9 DTW 320

Anybody knows when is the new MD90 is gonna hit the lines? Especially for MSPM88, what on earth are the new hires gonna do when they are out of IOE? There is very few if any open time at all (If there is, it's picked up by Out-of-base WS, if you can imagine!). Not that i'm complaining, but just trying to plan if i should stick around in a category which will never grow, or bail and go back to the west coast and sit reserve closer to home. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 890268)

There's two more announcements that go with that one...

Cheers
George

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 890269)

Yes, George there are......

Oh, do tell. I'm guessing some more 777's for cheap. :D

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Originally Posted by Josephus (Post 890184)

A few months ago in ATW there was an article on the C-Series stating it was a game changer because it would cause Boeing and Airbus to make the decision to either:

Begin their new narrow body design or re-engine 737s/320s with the new GTFs.

Has there been any discussion at Delta about doing the same thing with the 88s? Re-engine them with GTFs and upgrade them to -90/717 cockpits?

Might be a good stop-gap until the new narrow bodies are certified. American seems to be on their way to replacing the 88 with 737-800s, but you guys (no offense) seem to be a little late.

Of course with a fNWA guy at the helm, keeping old airplanes seems to have worked.

Thoughts from Delta line guys?

I think AMR looked into redoing the engines on their 80 series and it is cost prohibitive. One of the advantages I heard that the 9 fleet had, especially the 50, is that the engines are cheap and the planes are paid for so while they may not be as fuel efficient on a casm basis they are okay. If they were awful, we’d park them faster imho so there may be truth to that.

According to that one article from Flight Ops the 80 is somewhere around its half life in the fleet and could be here til 2020 or longer. I think a mod is worthwhile.

How do I say this in a PR friendly way, anyone who flies the 88 knows the life of an 88 engine. I’m sure they’d love to have more margin in temps on those engines. Let’s just say I heard that they have everyone whose job it is to monitor the fleet’s attention during the summer. I mean they do their job and do it well but of course a more efficient engine and maybe a FADEC addition would be great.

Now to me this Dugan Kinetics MD80 mod is one to watch, the one with a passive TR mod. Its listed below as EP80 and if you go to the site you’ll see it looks like one of those hush kids on an old GII or GIII:

http://dugankinetics.com/public/uplo...sons_Chart.jpg

www.dugankinetics.com

What is the EP-80? It is a Dugan Kinetics modified thrust reverser for the MD-80 Series aircraft. The modified TR offers a new stow position, where the TR is used as an ejector during flight. By using the TR as an ejector, the operator receives additional thrust, while keeping aircraft weight constant.The added thrust translates into a total flight fuel savings in the range of 5-9%.The substantial fuel savings produced by the EP-80 Ejector/TR offers Operators a payback in as low as 12 months.

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Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 890215)

Flew with a chief line check guy lately, and he told me they are "revisiting" the idea of modding all the MD 88/90 to look more like the 717, and eventually all the narrow body fleet, except the 320 will all look the same, fwiw...

Last month I sat next to a guy who works for Honeywell who was flying PHX to ATL to talk to DL about this very thing. The word "Pegasus" came up more than once :cool:

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 890272)

If they aren't secret, then why don't you fill us in?

yes i'm willing to listen ;)

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 890242)

Considering that's an MD-11 in Budapest about to head back to MEM, I don't think a delayed start was part of that equation. :D

Hey Clamp,
No offense, but I think you missed my point.......btw we virtually Never did delayed starts at FDX, and had to stop the jet and set the brakes for the Cap to touch the FMS or FCP.......worried more about path than fuel !:D.....can't speak to the MD in the pix.

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 890291)

yes i'm willing to listen ;)

Open skies to Japan

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 890294)

Open skies to Japan

Restrictions wiped away under the accord include one that lets only three U.S. carriers, Delta, United and FedEx Corp., serve all Japanese markets with unlimited flights.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 890279)

Oh, do tell. I'm guessing some more 777's for cheap. :D

That and/or the 748.......:)

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Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 890165)

FTB......This is the single best argument I have seen against delayed engine starts and post-pushback numbers. There, but for the grace of GOD............:eek:

Regards

Really?:rolleyes: