Originally Posted by Amish Pilot (Post 890155)

I'm glad they included this in the DC-9 FCB, my next question is what are we loading. Did somebody add a FMC to the DC-9 and not tell me? I guess the memo and video are coming next week....:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 890013)

I always take these kind of pics as a warning without even knowing why, all you know is yes we can:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/1801406.jpg

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 889455)

Okay, let me see if I can put this in a picture format.

This is Delta Air Lines today:

http://www.pmci-group.com/images/MD90.jpg

It's actually a MD-90. But what is an MD-90? It's an upgraded MD-88 that was introduced in 1987, which was an upgraded MD-80 which was introduced in 1980 which was a stretched DC-9 first introduced in 1965- by Delta btw. So, its an old airplane that has gone from 60 some passengers and 12,000 lbs of thrust to 160 seats and 28,000 lbs per side. The cockpit has some fancy stuff mixed with some of the original. I think all airlines are like that.

Except the new ones, like say Jetblue who probably looks more like it's very own EMB-190s that are clean sheet designs with dual HUDs, all the avionics you could ever want, big windows and wider seats.

This is say, a Jetblue as an airline:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/1194414.jpg

We won't ever be clean sheet and that's okay. There is a lot you don't want to get rid of from the old Delta and old NWA. So in time, with the right leadership (which we have) and the sexiest pilots (which the APC crowd is) we're going to go from 9, to 80, to the 88 (DAL pre merger) to 90 (post merger, especially in time) to those Saudi 90s or 717 cockpits (to future Delta), metaphorically speaking.

This is where Delta is headed:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../0/1529017.jpg

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 890197)

I am sure there has been talk of getting these jets to a point where they are RNAV RNP capable. There was talk as early as the mid 1990's to re-engine the 88 with the 90 engine.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 890209)

The irony is that MD originally was going to have the 717 generation cockpit on the MD-90, but we at Delta (a la WN) got them to dumb it down to the 88 cockpit for commonality!

Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 890215)

Flew with a chief line check guy lately, and he told me they are "revisiting" the idea of modding all the MD 88/90 to look more like the 717, and eventually all the narrow body fleet, except the 320 will all look the same, fwiw...

PS: When i shared this tidbit with the guys I fly with, they all laugh at me saying, "We've been trying to mod them for as long as I can remember, and we always end up buying more junk for dirt cheap prices..."

Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 890240)

Delta, Boeing revise 787 purchase deal
October 25, 2010


Delta and The Boeing Co. have finalized an agreement regarding Delta’s purchase of 18 Boeing 787-8 aircraft, originally ordered by Northwest Airlines.

Under the agreement, disclosed Monday in a quarterly financial filing, Delta remains a 787 customer, and will begin accepting the aircraft at a rate of six per year starting in 2020.

Under the original order, Delta was going to start taking the aircraft in 2008. Boeing was unable to meet the original delivery date, which is why the agreement was re-negotiated.

Delta has the youngest widebody transoceanic fleet among the major U.S. carriers, with an average aircraft age of 11 years

Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 890165)

FTB......This is the single best argument I have seen against delayed engine starts and post-pushback numbers. There, but for the grace of GOD............:eek:

Regards