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UncleSam 10-31-2010 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by caddis (Post 893734)
Picked up a white slip that ends with a DH. I want to change my DH flight I know we can but I can't figure out how.

Thanks

In eCrew/iCrew go to "NRSA Travel" menu selection along top of screen and select "Jumpseat/Deadhead". Last option on that menu is "Positive Space Deadhead for Backend Deviations". That's the one you want.

Splash 10-31-2010 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 893701)
I'd say 99% of the time it has happened, it was an accident.

I know of 4 times it happened at Northwest, between 2002 and now. I don't know that it matters if it was an accident. A pilot with a valid ID carrying a weapon through security even by accident represents in the best-case, a "trusted agent" (as we contend) who doesn't know *** he's doing, and where his weapon is.

Bad, Bad, Bad.


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 893701)
The only time I can think of that a pilot used a weapon in the cockpit was the Fe Ex incident.

I'm not arguing whether or not real airline pilots try to use weapons in the cockpit, I'm merely pointing out we might not be the "trusted agents" we claim to be when it comes to going through security in our studly uniforms, flashing our valid ID's.

acl65pilot 10-31-2010 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 893649)
Guys

On the whole security issue. Yesterday, I DH'd three times (yep, three times, great scheduling system we have). Any way, at two of the stations, SAN and SLC, the gate agent had to input all of my personnel info, to include my passport info, into the system before I could be listed for a DH. What's up with that? Its crew travel! I'm already through security. Any ideas? This is BS. (I did, however, get first on both flights so it wasn't all bad).


Buzz, this is a IT issue that they are working on. Go read last week's trim tab (two weeks ago) it explains the reason in there.

acl65pilot 10-31-2010 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Splash (Post 893744)
I know of 4 times it happened at Northwest, between 2002 and now. I don't know that it matters if it was an accident. A pilot with a valid ID carrying a weapon through security even by accident represents in the best-case, a "trusted agent" (as we contend) who doesn't know *** he's doing, and where his weapon is.

Bad, Bad, Bad.



I'm not arguing whether or not real airline pilots try to use weapons in the cockpit, I'm merely pointing out we might not be the "trusted agents" we claim to be when it comes to going through security in our studly uniforms, flashing our valid ID's.


All very valid points, and what do you think the results would be if a weapon were used in flight by one of us? What do you think the ramifications would be? I am guessing a lot worse.

I hate going thought the routine as much as the next guy, the difference is that I can understand that there are reasons to do what they do, and we as pilot do not have a "need to know" in regard to these reasons.

newKnow 10-31-2010 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 893747)
All very valid points, and what do you think the results would be if a weapon were used in flight by one of us? What do you think the ramifications would be? I am guessing a lot worse.

I hate going thought the routine as much as the next guy, the difference is that I can understand that there are reasons to do what they do, and we as pilot do not have a "need to know" in regard to these reasons.

Really? As a pilot, I need to know just about everything.

Splash 10-31-2010 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 893747)
All very valid points, and what do you think the results would be if a weapon were used in flight by one of us? What do you think the ramifications would be? I am guessing a lot worse.

I think you're right.

The screening process needs to be 100% successful. Airline pilots are not 100% trustworthy to know what we're doing when it comes to preventing weapons from getting through security. That's a painful fact to acknowledge.

We've had an airline pilot negligently discharge his authorized weapon in the cockpit. [public record] We've had pilots go through "crew gates" with weapons. [public record] We've had pilots try to fly drunk, with weapons. [public record]

As a result, I'm not trusted when I approach airport screening checkpoints. That makes me mad. Not at the schlubs groping my sweetbreads behind the curtain when I refuse the bodyscan, but at the jerks who screwed it up so that we can't be trusted. Pogo had it right...

DALMD88FO 10-31-2010 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 893641)
George. They have to pass though the metal detectors and their bags are screened at the start of the shift. I have seen it done many times.

Then that is a local directive. At most airports they DO NOT have to be screened prior to shift. Just come on down to MCO to see it.

FrankCobretti 10-31-2010 01:11 PM

All I know is, I'm bringing Courvoisier the next time I pass through security.

KC10 FATboy 10-31-2010 01:17 PM

Has RA addressed the customer service failures and recent bad ratings DAL has received in the press?

Bucking Bar 10-31-2010 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 893796)
Has RA addressed the customer service failures and recent bad ratings DAL has received in the press?

Aircraft seating realignments, performance data after push, return of the Redcoats ... all initiatives to improve customers' experiences on Delta. We're always trying to improve.


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