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Nosmo King 10-31-2010 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 893621)
I heard the new pat down procedure is worse than the scan. (Mentally)

Having some non-doctor guy brush against "my junk" is not desirable.

The guy I'm flying with said his last captain had to go through it and was visibly shaken and said he felt "violated."

Here is a hearsay quote from the DALPA forum attributed to an "ALPA leader."



If this is true, I think we have hit an all time low.

In my book, accepting something that is unacceptable is unprofessional behavior.

I am going to ask for pat down by a female TSA agent :rolleyes:

Carl Spackler 10-31-2010 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 893968)
The point is that as the CSG you should be able to have the assumption that your aircraft, crew, passengers and cargo are secure. This is what the TSA guy I know told me. Part of an ongoing discussion on screening all of us I guess. The premise is that if everyone and everything has been screened, then it is safe to assume we are all working with the same level of assumption for our security.

That is a wrong premise. Depending on location, TSA employees are not screened.

But that's beside the point. Until crewpass is a reality, properly ID'd crewmembers should only be subjected to current screening practices. Wish ALPA would at least fight for this as opposed to the go along-get along approach.

Carl

acl65pilot 10-31-2010 06:58 PM

I have no idea what ALPA is trying to do since I am not on the Security Committee Carl.

I know I see TSA employees screened all of the time.

My point is that everyone on YOUR jet is subject to the same screening.

firstmob 10-31-2010 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 893976)
I am going to ask for pat down by a female TSA agent :rolleyes:

Great idea Nosmo that should back up the check point for a couple of hours.

80ktsClamp 10-31-2010 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 893985)
I have no idea what ALPA is trying to do since I am not on the Security Committee Carl.

I know I see TSA employees screened all of the time.

My point is that everyone on YOUR jet is subject to the same screening.


I see them walk through the metal detector all the time... and set it off. With no recourse. They are rarely actually screened.

cencal83406 10-31-2010 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 893991)
I see them walk through the metal detector all the time... and set it off. With no recourse. They are rarely actually screened.

Yup. Ridiculous. Biggest security hole in American aviation is the lack of oversight of TSA workers.

If folks who have to pass 10 year background checks, FBI, etc etc, have to be screened like the passengers, those conducting the screening should be subject to the same fate.

forgot to bid 10-31-2010 07:25 PM

TSA Worker Arrested After Jokes, Fight About Size of Genitalia - FoxNews.com

A TSA worker in Miami was arrested when he "lost his mind" and attacked a colleague who repeatedly made fun of his small penis after the security screener walked through a high-tech scanner that showed his genitalia, according to Miami-Dade police.

flyallnite 10-31-2010 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 893985)
I have no idea what ALPA is trying to do since I am not on the Security Committee Carl.

I know I see TSA employees screened all of the time.

My point is that everyone on YOUR jet is subject to the same screening.

I have never seen a tsa screener being screened. Ever. I know that ill never see a tsa screener having their private parts felt up. Quite sure of that. Be professional. Really? ALPA? That's what you have to say? For all the dues.... be professional? Well you've lost me here. Aren't YOU the organization I pay good money to in order to protect this.profession? I'd say this is an indication that ALPA is the one who needs encouragement in its charge. This development is not acceptable and I don't buy the argument that the tsa is saving us from ourselves. This is why I pay dues. This is supposedly why.ALPA PAC is so important. I'm thinking that at this point the money is better spent on more productive enterprises. Spare me the rhetoric please.

80ktsClamp 10-31-2010 07:39 PM

Spot on, flyallnite.

I've racked my brain, and I cannot think of a single time I've ever actually seen a TSA agent screened throughout my career.

acl65pilot 10-31-2010 07:47 PM

Well, I guess you do not arrive at the airport before the checkpoint opens. I see those guys going though and getting their stuff screened all of the time. It is not every time, just the first time at the start of a shift.


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