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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 892608)

You can go up to negative 20 in your bank. It gets paid back above 82 hrs in five hr increments or that is what I recall.

What you do is go to Option L or BANK. Put a request in for what you want.

I believe it is negative 30 hours and the first 5 hours above 80 automatically repay if you're in negative territory.

I thought is was 30 hours?

That's what I'm negative at least!

1. A pilot’s bank will have an account balance that is positive, negative or zero.
2. A bank balance is subject to the following limits:
a. A positive bank balance may not exceed 60 hours.
b. A negative bank balance may not exceed 30 hours.
In each bid period:
a. a pilot may deposit into his bank account up to 20 hours of credit that is accumulated
in excess of 80 hours in such bid period.
b. the first five hours of credit a pilot accumulates in excess of 80 hours will be
automatically applied against a negative bank balance. Such repayment does not
constitute a deposit.
c. a deposit will be applied against a negative bank balance.
d. a pilot may withdraw all or any portion of his positive bank balance for the purposes
set forth in Section 12 O. 4.
e. a pilot may borrow up to 20 hours of credit from his bank in a bid period for the
purposes set forth in Section 12 O. 4.
4. A pilot may withdraw or borrow from his bank account for the following purposes:
a. to receive additional credit for pay purposes (up to the lesser of the ALV plus five
hours or 82 hours) for the current bid period.
Exception: A pilot may not withdraw more than five hours from his bank in a bid
period in which the pilot is awarded a GS.
b. to purchase up to ten vacation days for use during the subsequent vacation year.
c. to purchase, by mutual agreement, up to ten vacation days for use during the current
vacation year.
Note: See Sections 7 E. 4.- 6. concerning placement of purchased vacation days.
5. A pilot may not use more than ten purchased vacation days in any vacation year.
6. Bank credit withdrawn or borrowed by a pilot will be paid at his carry-over rate for the
bid period in which such transaction occurs.
7. Bank transaction requests must be submitted via DBMS under Section 23 B.
8. A bank transaction(s) will be processed at the end of a bid period.
9. A pilot’s bank deposit will be processed before any other bank transaction initiated by
him.

We are all correct. It is a max of neg 30 but only 20 in a month.

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Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 892624)

Yep I knew there was a reason for those DRC assesments.

IMHO, a deferment of 10 years could be argued that any 777 that comes aboard now would be replacement aircraft for those 787. You can bet this will go to an arbitrator.

Don't really have a dog in this fight as I am around SSN 4000 and I'll never see CA 777, 747 or 787. However North pilots senior to me would've seen 787 seats before they retired.

This isn't about moving bases (777 to DTW). It's about what an expectation from the SLI in regards to WB growth seats should have produced.

It is also possible that an arbitrator could 'split the baby' and award seats on new 777 that would replace the 787 on a 1 fDAL and 1 fNWA ratio.

No telling what an arbitrator will decide.

I agree that anything with big jets will more than likely go from the DRC to the arbitrator very quickly. In the end it is what it is, and the decisions will not be ours to make. To me it is not worth fighting for, and we will let the process we agreed to work.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 892631)

I for one wish we didn't have any fences at all. Fences make sense when you have wildly disparate fleets and demographics in a merger. When the two entities are roughly similar, such as in our merger, they just cause headaches and needless angst. At least ours is a relatively limited fence for a limited time.

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Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 892624)

Yup.. you could make that argument.. but it is a weak one.... and FWIW, I personally couldn't care less about the airplanes you mentioned above either.... But no orders have been cancelled so I would think it would be hard for blockhead to justify giving any 777 seats to the north side.. JMO

But really.. the 787 is basically a 767 with long legs.. hasn't the north side argued that it isn't a REAL widebody???? :D

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 892581)

It did that because the PCS run was going on. Try again.

Ah. That makes sense. Thanks. :)

I don't think you are going to have to worry about any new 777's (and who flys them) for a long time, at least that's what my CPO told me last week. He said a new 777 costs about $263Million and King Richard said we have all we want/need right now. He said that's why they are instead focusing on used MD90's, at about $3M per....and Code Sharing for any wide body "growth".

So, we got that going for us.

The fences applied during the NWA/REP merger not only protected aircraft but CA seats on the aircraft. I.E. NWA pilots had X number of CA positions protected on the 744. If there was an increase in CA positions above that number they were awarded 1 for 1. Seemed fair.