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BZZZZZ wrong. I predict that with 90% of former NWA FA voting yes, it won't take much to get it too pass. Many DAL will vote yes, but the problem will be the no voters will be negated by the FA's who did not vote (or who were on the fence)

Of people that voted, I bet it's over 70% yes to AFA

You may be right, of course. I was just guessing based on my own very unscientific hunch. Of the few south crews that I've talked with about it (I generally avoid the subject if possible) most have been strongly opposed to the union.

I guess we'll know in a few hours one way or another. Either way, I'll just be glad it's over.

newKnow

11-03-2010 07:04 AM

How many flight attendants were there for each airline before the merger?

forgot to bid

11-03-2010 07:04 AM

Well, what the heck, I'll put a number... I'm going to guess 80% partcipation on both the NWA and DAL side, of which, 40% of DAL votes yes and 80% of NWA votes yes thus it passes 54% to 46%.

I'm just guessing just to have a number. See who comes the closest.

But if only 33% of DAL votes yes with 80% partcipation, and 80% of NWA votes yes, then it won't pass. The question is, how many DAL FA's are against it, if its a vast majority then I don't think AFA wins. Still not a fan of the AFA anyways. Probably win if it was an in-house union.

forgot to bid

11-03-2010 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 895245)

How many flight attendants were there for each airline before the merger?

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Delta has 20,000 Flight Attendants, over 7000 of which are from Northwest and they are represented by AFA. The pre-merger Delta Flight Attendants have no representation. Delta is the only major carrier where Flight Attendants are non-union.

acl65pilot

11-03-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 895242)

If that is the case I will be impressed.

Cycle Pilot

11-03-2010 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 895234)

I think it will be closer than that. The ATL base is largely Anti-AFA, and the get out the vote drive really make many of those that could care less aware it was going on. It does come down to how these FA's vote. If they actually voted, I suspect a loss for the AFA. Just a guess though.

The ATL AFA base is huge, and in my travels I have found only a few hand fulls of FA's voting yes, most were voting no.

The NYC base is anti-AFA, too. I haven't found one FA up in NY who wants the AFA.

newKnow

11-03-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 895249)

Thanks ftb.

I'm going to go with 55% - 45% FOR AFA.

tsquare

11-03-2010 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 895255)

The NYC base is anti-AFA, too. I haven't found one FA up in NY who wants the AFA.

Really? I have no idea what trips you have been flying, but there are LOTS of 'em up here...

slowplay

11-03-2010 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 895244)

I guess we'll know in a few hours one way or another. Either way, I'll just be glad it's over.

It won't be over unless Boog is right.

If AFA fails on a close vote, expect protests to the NMB and Court about management interference. If AFA wins on a narrow vote, expect a DPA like cat-rancher rebellion.:eek:

I hope the vote is decisive, not divisive.

tsquare

11-03-2010 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 895261)

Since you are swtched into the workings of this stuff.. How will this play out: If the AFA wins.. do the fDAL FAs immediately revert to the fNWA payrates? IOW.. do they take a paycut? OR do they need to enter a section 6 type negotiations?

And simply the nature of having two disparate groups is divisive... their union is not gonna change that. If you think otherwise you are pretty naive, and that would surprise me.

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