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acl65pilot 11-23-2010 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 905658)
I think there alot of things wrong with our reserve system.
RAW score is absolutely meaningless.
Short call assignments are are completely arbitrary.
Reserve staffing levels are completely arbitrary.

It'd be nice to address a few of these issues as a way to at least make life on reserve a little easier to plan.

Also everything else at the company is based on seniority, why should reserve be any different?


S....O....T :D

Many guys I know submitted solutions for seniority to matter. FYP, the schedulers always seem to get the more senior guys the better trips! :D

hockeypilot44 11-23-2010 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 905655)
I suspect its because of the number of pilots who suddenly get sick just before a significant holiday.... but I could be wrong. Maybe the company is just trying to screw us because they hate pilots....

There are more pilots on reserve tomorrow in DTW than there are overall trips starting tomorrow. Every single lineholder could call in sick and we'd still have some unused reserves.:eek: That's overkill anyway you look at it.

Desperado 11-23-2010 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 905631)
It's also the only place where the FAA informs you of pending infractions and violations that you still have time to file an ASAP for and where the PBS committee sends you emails detailing good trips you didn't bid for and mistakes in your bid.

Few people know that.

And I'm totally lying.

I don't know if the FAA even issues infractions but I know the NCAA does. You see, I've learned a lot about infractions and violations over the past two weeks as I have climbed that water tower to protect the honor of a good person against unfounded allegations.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/temp-147.jpg

And I want you to know, I'd do that for every last one of you.

Except Newk. Nobody questions him anyways.

Hey New, I thought you were coming over to the elongated 9?



I count 9.



And "some" pilots just post pictures when they have no rationale, reasonable, logical valid opinion on a topic but still just want to be seen.

Why does your sign deny that Cam is 'frost'???:confused:

Radiation frost (also called hoar frost or hoarfrost) refers to the white ice crystals, loosely deposited on the ground or exposed objects, that form on cold clear nights when heat losses into the open skies cause objects to become colder than the surrounding air.

Pineapple Guy 11-23-2010 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 905661)
There are more pilots on reserve tomorrow in DTW than there are overall trips starting tomorrow. Every single lineholder could call in sick and we'd still have some unused reserves.:eek: That's overkill anyway you look at it.

Except you've got plenty more pilots mid-rotation who might get "sick" too.

I really don't know how prevalent this is, and I suspect its not -- I'm mainly jerking your chain. But, you can check the reserve coverage after the fact, to see just how many pilots were ultimately called out on that day. Hopefully, our scheduling guys occasionally do this, and try to resolve these things if abuse is routinely occurring.

iaflyer 11-23-2010 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 905658)
I think there alot of things wrong with our reserve system.
RAW score is absolutely meaningless.
Short call assignments are are completely arbitrary.
Reserve staffing levels are completely arbitrary.

The raw score isn't meaningless - it is the company's way of making sure everyone flies. They don't want someone only flying 10 hours when someone else is flying 80. It's more efficient for them.

I agree SC assignments are arbitrary, but that's the way it is now. Maybe the SOT will get a fix for that. They are working on things.

Reserve staffing isn't arbitrary - it's everyone in the category who doesn't have a line. Less flying, more reserves. More flying, less reserves. Doesn't seem too complex to me.

Michael70776 11-23-2010 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 905199)
It is true the LCP's receive their direction from the Chief LCP but it is the fleet captain that recommends any procedure changes to Flight Standards.

That is wrong. Either the Fleet Captain or the Chief Line Check Pilot can recommend procedure changes.

Ferd149 11-23-2010 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 905589)
I'll show you the lay of the land my brother.

Come thirsty...and without your soul! :D

Carl

Two's IN!!:eek::D

acl65pilot 11-23-2010 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 905661)
There are more pilots on reserve tomorrow in DTW than there are overall trips starting tomorrow. Every single lineholder could call in sick and we'd still have some unused reserves.:eek: That's overkill anyway you look at it.


The reserve required number is what matters. In a month that does not have a PCS multiplier of 1.5 that is the number that the computer respects.

Not that reserve required number is a interesting animal and probably needs some tweaking on the next contract. Here is the applicable section of the PWA

23. W:


W. Reserves Required
1. For each category, the number of reserves required (R) will not exceed the number
calculated under the following formula:
a. Determine the average number of reserve duty periods worked (including duty
periods flown under GS/GSWC/IA/IAWC) by day of week over the least recent 12 of
the last 13 months.
b. Apply one standard deviation to each day of week average.
Exception: Apply two standard deviations to the average for each day of the week
that falls within a three day period beginning the day before the following days:
1) New Year’s Day,
2) Super Bowl Sunday,
3) Easter Sunday,
4) Memorial Day,
5) Independence Day,
6) Labor Day,
7) Thanksgiving, and
8) Christmas.
c. Multiply this average by the total scheduled block and credit hours for the category
for the bid period divided by the average of the total scheduled block and credit hours
for the category for the least recent 12 of the last 13 months.
Exception one: At any time, Crew Scheduling may substitute a value for reserves
required (R) that is lower than the value created by the application of the formula.
Exception two: Within eight days of the date for which the formula is applied, Crew
Scheduling may substitute a value for reserves required (R) that is higher than the value
created by the application of the formula.
Note: The Company and the Association will meet and confer quarterly to mutually
review the application of the formula to ensure it provides realistic operational reserve
coverage.
2. Formula values and definitions:
a. D = date for which the formula is applied
b. A = number of reserves available in category on D
c. R = number of reserves required in category on D, as determined by Section 23 W. 1.
d. M = a multiplier determined by the Company which will not exceed 1.5
e. “Day to be dropped” means:
1) a day on which a regular pilot is scheduled to be on a rotation and on which, if his
requested swap is granted, he will not be scheduled to be on a rotation.
2) a day to which a reserve pilot is requesting to move an X-day.
f. “Day to be added” means:
1) a day on which a regular pilot is not scheduled to be on a rotation and on which, if
his requested swap is granted, he will be scheduled to be on a rotation.
2) a day from which a reserve pilot is requesting to move an X-day.
3. A request to swap with the pot under Section 23 H. that meets the conditions set forth in
Section 23 H. 5. will be granted if:
a. the number of reserves available in the category (A) on the day(s) to be dropped is
greater than the number of reserves required (R) on such days, or
b. application of the formula described in Section 23 W. 5. allows the swap request to be
granted.
4. A request to move an X-day(s) that otherwise meets the eligibility requirements of
Section 12 N. 9. will be granted if:
a. the number or reserves available in the category (A) on the day(s) to be dropped is
greater than the number of reserves required (R) on such days, or
b. application of the formula described in Section 23 W. 5. allows the X-day(s) move
request to be granted

Ferd149 11-23-2010 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 905568)
The fleet captain of the 757/767 fleet is a fNWA guy. Theat fleet would be the 7th largest airline in the world if separated out. If memory serves me correctly, NWA did not have any 767s. This is a stupid thing to be getting wrapped around the axle about.

And the 757 is the largest fleet by it's self and he's a very smart 757 guy (flown with him numerous times). T, you'll recall there were several south guys on this board that tossed the BS flag when he was named to the position, based on the 767 side of the issue.......just like us calling foul on the Whale and Airbus.

I guess nothing we argue about ever changes, just which direction we look at things from?:D

I like TC a lot. No no not long time, just a lot:D

dragon 11-23-2010 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 905665)
The raw score isn't meaningless - it is the company's way of making sure everyone flies. They don't want someone only flying 10 hours when someone else is flying 80. It's more efficient for them.

I agree SC assignments are arbitrary, but that's the way it is now. Maybe the SOT will get a fix for that. They are working on things.

Reserve staffing isn't arbitrary - it's everyone in the category who doesn't have a line. Less flying, more reserves. More flying, less reserves. Doesn't seem too complex to me.

The SOT did a good thing by getting the SC required list published, but it is just something to deviate from. For example, today in NYC we're supposed to have two SC FOs, we have 5!


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