I figured as much.........but I must be blind, I'll look again.

I wonder what else is on the Fleet page I really should look at.......that I haven't noticed:D

I can't speak to the 717 rumor but............

I've talked to a couple of LCA types on the A330 and a guy who was going to be on the initial cadre on the 787 (back on the line now) and they all say we have all the widebodys we need. Maybe a 767 replacement someday, but for the time being we are set.

Our money manager masters of the universe don't want us to grow too fast:mad:

Bill I like your dots. A buddy of mine that works over in the LUV corporate offices seems to think that they will want to do away with their 717's as well. The Click Jets are up to 25 total, so that would be a nice add on to these. If we pull the trigger great, I just like the fact that we are looking at airplanes.

As for the WB jets, we need em. They just pulled DTW and MSP to HNL because they do not have enough WB jets to fly what they want flown, so if we can get some cheap we will get em. I know Jet Star had three 777-200LR's they were shedding too. Emirates is shedding a bunch of their jets as they take delivery of new ones as well. There are a few white tail 744's, 330's, 320's on the used market as well. There are a bunch of 320's with 20K-55K hr on them that are for sale at 6-12 million a copy too. All of those would be great additions to our fleet. I figure we look at all of them.

On your hiring number, that seems to be the constant rumor, but it needed board approval before they hit the execute button.

That place seems cramped.

http://hollywoodstandups.com/images/homerIntense.jpg

But two CRJ900s probably costs the same as getting 4 or 5 117-seat Boeing 717s with IFE.

Fly DC Jets. Keeping the rumor alive. :D

Thanks LL. I'll try using that.

Nosmo, Yeah that's what I wanted to use it for.

Denny

You like my dots? Thanks, I work out. Oh wait....nevermind. I don't think Jet Star (the Australian airline) has any 777LRs, though. I can see Emirates disposing of A330s, and JetStar maybe dumping some of their A330s too. It just depends on delivery of other incoming planes. If Emirates is delayed by A380 delays, then it may take longer to get any A330s on the used market. I hope we do look for good bargains, and then get them. I don't know if SWA will ditch their 717s, since they may fit in on some Western routes. And, I hope our board does hit EXEC on big hiring. That would be nice.

The MD90s do add a twist, but I guess I was looking at the fact that Delta didn't have anything smaller than the MD88 prior to the merger. The DC9s are good because they are paid for, and can be parked if fuel goes up again. I don't know what the going rate for a 717. Two CR9s can serve a market better than a single DC9, the frequency attracts business travelers. A leisure traveler doesn't usually care how often a flight goes, as long as it gets there and the fare is cheap. The business traveler wants the frequency, so I think it would be more attractive to network. The 2 CR9s might be cheaper than a single DC9. However, the company can't add many (or any, not sure, paging ACL...) more CR9s because of scope. They can add any number of mainline aircraft.

Maybe - now that we have another simulator, it makes it easier to have more A330s. Yes, Boeing does owe us money, but everyone here seems to think it's a lot of money. I doubt it's more than $100 million, max. That might be the price of half a new 330. Second, Boeing is more likely to give us a deal on 777s than the competitor's airplanes.

2%-3% growth rate at Delta might mean 240-360 new hires. Now, that means actually nothing, because the 2-3% growth for 2011 is total airline capacity. It includes parking CRJs and adding mainline, so we may have to have more bodies. Also, from what they said last year, they have hired for 2011, any hiring next year is for 2012, which they haven't talked about growth. Finally, as SD says, they staff for block hours, which doesn't directly connect to airline capacity.

I'm all for new hires, so I won't say we won't hire that amount, I'm just saying that who knows. Retirements aren't required yet, and we are seeing big majority of pilots stay past 60.

That's how I had to do it, to get to the LMS. The link takes you to ATLAS, where you'll have to reset your password. It'd been over a year since I'd logged into ATLAS.

You've still got a week though, what's the hurry?? :D

Who are the SOT? Where can I get in touch with them? will they really do anything? Maybe another litmus test as to whether alpa is worthy of keeping on the property....

Sure... I was saying that this whole furball is retarded... It's an AIRPLANE guys... any of us.. if we can get it started.. can fly it, right? Who cares who the fleet captain is anyway?