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Old 11-24-2010 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Ball Breaker
They should, except under this corrupt regime it would not surprise me to see them get another vote.
Another vote would be even more embarassing for the AFA.

This protest is just for appearance sake. They need to be seen as going down fighting -- for the benefit of all their hard core supporters. It wouldn't surprise me if they give a wink and a nod to the NMB to dismiss these goofy interference claims.
Old 11-24-2010 | 07:40 AM
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Old 11-24-2010 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by reddog25
I saw this coming from the start when RA and his in flight management team began campaigning against the union drive from the start. He'd have been better off to have said NOTHING. RA reaps what he sowed.
So I guess the AFA gets to spend millions campaigning, in addition to enjoying the newly imposed election criteria that they were generously awarded by the Dept of Labor (rules that seriously tilt the odds for union representation), and the company is supposed to just sit back and do nothing? Are you serious? There is absolutely nothing RA could have said that the union wouldn't have distorted to fit their accusations. Hopefully the NMB will do the right thing and base their decision on facts.
Old 11-24-2010 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
You asked if we(I) really had that much interaction, I gave you several examples. In 2 of those examples a pilot with extensive knowledge of the aircraft was required and in one case a pilot with that knowledge and authority to deviate from standard procedures in a non-emergency situation.

In any case the 330 fleet is not 12000 pilots its much smaller, but the 7ER fleet is probably bordering on unmanageable by a single person.
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Good Lord. Really?

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I wonder about some of you guys....
Originally Posted by capncrunch
If the roles were reversed, I doubt youd like it if we reacted to you in the same manner.
It's okay capncrunch, this is the type of reply I expect from buzz. It's one of the reasons I haven't bought his books. I figure if he writes like this in the forum he probably writes like that in his books.
Old 11-24-2010 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AHDRVR
So I guess the AFA gets to spend millions campaigning, in addition to enjoying the newly imposed election criteria that they were generously awarded by the Dept of Labor (rules that seriously tilt the odds for union representation), and the company is supposed to just sit back and do nothing? Are you serious? There is absolutely nothing RA could have said that the union wouldn't have distorted to fit their accusations. Hopefully the NMB will do the right thing and base their decision on facts.
So it sounds like you know the specifics of the claim, exactly what claims were made and why don't you think they have merit? I haven't seen the filing so I'm in the dark.

In any case I think from a contractual standpoint a unionized FA group might have made it easier for us to negotiate. It would make it harder for management to use the "If we give it to you we have to give it to the Flight Attendants" excuse.

Disclaimer: I am speaking neither in favor of nor against a flight attendant union.
Old 11-24-2010 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
It's okay capncrunch, this is the type of reply I expect from buzz. It's one of the reasons I haven't bought his books. I figure if he writes like this in the forum he probably writes like that in his books.

Duuuuude......
Old 11-24-2010 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
This is what my Thanksgiving Turkey looks like this year:

Give me some DEET!!!
80, I'd be much more concerned about the Penis Fish if I were you.



Candiru (English and Portuguese) or candirú (Spanish), also known as cañero or toothpick fish, are a number of genera of parasitic freshwater catfish in the family Trichomycteridae; all are native to the Amazon River. Although some candiru species have been known to grow to a size of 16 inches (~41 cm) in length, others are considerably smaller. These smaller species are known for an alleged tendency to invade and parasitize the human urethra; however, despite ethnological reports dating back to the late 19th century,[1] the first documented case of a candiru parasitizing a human did not occur until 1997.




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Happy Thanksgiving everyone, including you Satch...

Hey, I've got to give ATL's CP WS credit both Thanksgiving and Christmas day I saw him in the crew room handing out free food. In a very bitter world, I think that's classy.
Old 11-24-2010 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
80, I'd be much more concerned about the Penis Fish if I were you.



Candiru (English and Portuguese) or candirú (Spanish), also known as cañero or toothpick fish, are a number of genera of parasitic freshwater catfish in the family Trichomycteridae; all are native to the Amazon River. Although some candiru species have been known to grow to a size of 16 inches (~41 cm) in length, others are considerably smaller. These smaller species are known for an alleged tendency to invade and parasitize the human urethra; however, despite ethnological reports dating back to the late 19th century,[1] the first documented case of a candiru parasitizing a human did not occur until 1997.




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Happy Thanksgiving everyone, including you Satch...
And just think, a few of us do have to worry about the 16 inchers as well!
Old 11-24-2010 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AHDRVR
So I guess the AFA gets to spend millions campaigning, in addition to enjoying the newly imposed election criteria that they were generously awarded by the Dept of Labor (rules that seriously tilt the odds for union representation), and the company is supposed to just sit back and do nothing? Are you serious? There is absolutely nothing RA could have said that the union wouldn't have distorted to fit their accusations. Hopefully the NMB will do the right thing and base their decision on facts.
My favorite part of the whole AFA thing is, I think it was Slow that brought it up, they were calling either DAL pilots or specifically FNWA pilots scabs for having gone along with the merger.
Old 11-24-2010 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ball Breaker
And just think, a few of us do have to worry about the 16 inchers as well!

I am doing everything I can to refrain from something including the words "your mom."
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