I most certainly won't! :D

That's why I was wondering was constitutes official notification. With trips in open time, I'm expecting a call tomorrow morning when they cover open time trips. There are next to no reserves, but I guess I go first anyway so it really doesn't matter.

That is if they don't pull the trip from your schedule right? They will usually leave your trip on your schedule right up until the 12 hours. They will then pull it off, assign a 23K trip, then give you a call at the last minute. During IROPS they have been known to miss a few of these trips by a few minutes because they wait until they have no time left for notifications. If nothing is on your schedule at the 12 hour mark and there are still trips in open time that could be assigned to you, take a screen shot of your schedule so when they call you, you can tell them you'd be happy to do the trip as a WS and get paid for both.

I don't have the contract in front of me, but as I recall they call you 24 hours prior to tell you that you are on recovery flying. When I was in your boat, they called me right at the 24 hours prior point. There was nothing in open time for me, but they couldn't release me prior to the 12 hour drop dead point, so I had to commute up like a good little doobie. At 12 hours prior, you fall off the available list unless they assign you something.

With trips in open time, as others have said, I'd lead turn it and try and get something you want.

Ferd

Ex: Your trip gets off at 9pm. You could be rerouted into a trip thats get off at 1am. Thats next calender day but four hours later.

Wow! More crap. :)

Not as bad as the rules that prevent us from moving X days and trading trips. Why can't we move/trade something inside of 72 hours?? The LC window is 12 so it has no effect whatsoever on covering a trip as long as it is outside of 12 hours.

Also, PBS gives me one day off between on call days TWICE in the month of December but I can't move X-days that will create another single X day between on call days. PBS is getting very good at building reserve schedules that will not allow you to move any days due to these rules by violating the same rules when building your schedule.

PBS will also put up to 9 reserve days in a row which I don't have a problem with, but then you can't put more than 6 in a row when trying to swap things around. Frustrating that it's not a two way street.

How does it get muddier? It still applies.

If you are a commuter, better to get released and not commute at all.

I had a line check recently. The LCA told me they no longer require you to ride along on the first couple of legs. Anyway, I had a 4 day trip recently that had OE on it. They called me about 7 am the morning prior to remove me from the trip. My trip didn't report until the next evening. So I had a 30 plus hour heads up. At 12 hours prior, there was nothing on my schedule so I was free of obligation. It is not 23K stuff. This falls under 23G. They can only give you something on the first day after white slips. Make sure to put in preference qualifiers. I chose the shortest trip possible. Why work more when you will get paid for the original trip anyway? You are not officially notified until they call you. I had to go into Icrew to acknowledge that the rotation was removed.

DL;
Depends. On an Asia flight I recently DHed on, I sat next to a FO who was going along for the entire trip. The LCA stated that the FO was not qualified until he gave him his line check and he was not going to do that until the leg home. Ergo, he could not sit up front with someone besides another LCA. SO this FO got to DH all over the world.

I find it weird, but this guy was doing it. No kidding.