T-I agree. It is not like the they have announced an order for 600 787-900's yet..... :eek:

It will be interesting to see if SWA keeps those jets... that completely breaks the model.

True dat. I find it frustrating that SWA seems to outmaneuver everyone.. including the gubbamint.. I hope LaHood choked on his cornflakes this morning.

Don't forget guys, we're not USAir or United and we haven't blinked when these guys have come to town. They have actually cut back in DTW over the years and they still haven't gotten much of a foot hold in MSP.

We will do fine with them in ATL. I forgot who said it, in which thread, but I agree it's time to "out nice" SWA. Old Delta was famous for southern charm, which made people in the southeast love us as much as Coke. Time for our management to REALLY get back there and not just pay lip service to it.

Last two thoughts:

LUV = international feed. ACL or someone smart should be able to find DTW stats on that somewhere.

I really feel sorry for Sun Country. They are the guys getting killed in MSP and I'll bet they were hoping (an all 737 company) that they were on the target list.

Ferd

Ya know.. that is not a bad point. If we can kill 'em in head to head markets, and let them bring passengers from their own markets.. we can say "thanks for the cheese".

That's just the thing. LUV is a self-perpetuating legend that has never seen any serious interruption in their (enviable) rise, whereas Delta is formerly legendary, I guess. A competition might be what this company needs. In the right environment, with decent leadership, adequate job security and improving working conditions, this could be the catalyst.

I don't know about you, but I want to compete. I want the cat-herders to want it also. It would make it a lot more pleasant to go to work.

I also have flown on LUV, and have witnessed the hired help, and their funny antics. That is one maturing airline. The people are old, the jokes older. Still a great company, but one that is based on growth in an industry where growth doesn't make sense. So they are going to have to prevail, or die trying.

At any rate, we shouldn't kid ourselves about their ambitions: it's not just ATL or the East. They are coming to the international space (look at today's press release). They are going after our food-bowl. We now have in our combined DNA people that will slash your throat for looking at them funny, and people that know how to sreve fake southern compliments in a way that will make you just gush with gratitude.


You're coming to the ATL? How how naaaaice! Bleeeeess yor heart!

Couldn't help laughing at this one. :D

Maybe now that this SWA merger has been announced, the FNWA pilots will stop being the perpetual complainers they have been up to this point (As if they really got shafted with this merger:rolleyes:) and step up and use that energy to make DELTA the airline it can be.

I know a lot of you are thinking this, I am just the one who said it:eek:

Remember, businessmen love frequency that Rjs provide, regardless of the losses we incur. (tic)

Delta still owns most of the gates in Atlanta, and that won't change. Southwest does get a foot hold, though, but expansion is based on getting more gates.