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Old 03-12-2009, 04:39 AM
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Speculation. Just connecting the dots. 76 seat jet is under performing (as usual), they have DCI contracts that they need to fill. They will want to make money, or lose less with them, so I just see them asking for relief to allow bigger jets, or more seats in the current jets.
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:52 AM
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Heyas,

... slam the door on a BMW, and then slam the door on a 1980's Tercel, and you'll know.

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The only difference is rubberized undercoating all over the inside of the door. Toyota figured this out and called the new product, Lexus.
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:17 AM
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I can tell you where I stand. If anyone DALPA even for one second lets the question come across their lips to ask us to let more seats in the CRJ or ERJ for the regionals...I will shove a SH1t sandwhich in there so fast it will make their head spin.
Any jet bigger than the CRJ 900 or the EMB 175 is main line period. Without giving ANYTHING UP FOR IT! In fact the fight isn't going to start on management's field with "hey lets talk about the E-jets for our regionals". NO NO my friend there is nothing to talk about there except how much you will be paying the mainline guys to fly it.
We will start with lets talk about the EMB 175 coming to mainline.
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2 View Post
I can tell you where I stand. If anyone DALPA even for one second lets the question come across their lips to ask us to let more seats in the CRJ or ERJ for the regionals...I will shove a SH1t sandwhich in there so fast it will make their head spin.
Any jet bigger than the CRJ 900 or the EMB 175 is main line period. Without giving ANYTHING UP FOR IT! In fact the fight isn't going to start on management's field with "hey lets talk about the E-jets for our regionals". NO NO my friend there is nothing to talk about there except how much you will be paying the mainline guys to fly it.
We will start with lets talk about the EMB 175 coming to mainline.
Oh come on now, they might threaten to park a couple WB or defer delivery if we don't give them relief. Guarantee you there will be those that want to talk about it. After all, park two 767's and it's the equivalent of 10 extra seats in 50 76 seater's, and then we lose mainline flying if we park the 767.

Maybe we'll allow additional outsourcing of our jobs in return for another no-furlough clause?

Why should I give something up in my career just to help a F/O upgrade sooner?

(disclaimer for the humor impaired - the above is satire)
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:14 AM
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I think it was only for the MD88 and 765 since they're the only ones on the new system. They were automated calls reminding you to bid in the new system and that your old reoccuring bid wouldn't count.
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Speculation. Just connecting the dots. 76 seat jet is under performing (as usual), they have DCI contracts that they need to fill. They will want to make money, or lose less with them, so I just see them asking for relief to allow bigger jets, or more seats in the current jets.
The company wants to maintain the First Class product in the jets. Even taking it out only gains them 4 seats or one row. They don't want more seats in the current jets. If they did they would have asked for it in the 1113 C process when they had us by the balls. I would actually be surprised if they even asked for a bigger aircraft at DCI. They are quite happy with the present situation.
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:18 AM
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Is there really an automated phone call if you haven't entered a bid?
Yep, I got the same call yesterday...
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Old 03-12-2009, 07:11 AM
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Anybody think this could have an adverse effect on labor relations at DAL in the near future:

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CAL offers pilot COLA

........Management has had consultants in the past (Mike Campbell) and has consultants today (Mike Bonds) whose specialty is instilling fear among organized labor groups—and COLA 11 is part of that campaign of fear. As you look at these videos, see if you can put a management name to the people depicted in the presentation; it won’t be hard. By the way, there’s good money in busting unions, crafting campaigns of fear, and putting pilots on the street: Last year Mike Campbell, now working the same job at Delta Air Lines as he held with Continental, pulled down over $6,000,000.
Bold emphasis mine.
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Old 03-12-2009, 07:22 AM
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They don't want more seats in the current jets. If they did they would have asked for it in the 1113 C process when they had us by the balls. I would actually be surprised if they even asked for a bigger aircraft at DCI. They are quite happy with the present situation.
I thought they did ask for more, at least 78 seats.
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:46 AM
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I can tell you that the 76 seat jet is not doing as well as they would like.

The 50's can be used to put the 100 million dollar belt system on a full loop between C and the baggage claim. (This one is pure genius)

Spent 100 million and it only goes one way. For less than 10 million more it could have gone back to baggage claim. Now we have our tug guys driving bags to bag claim and coming back empty. ****!
Had a buddy of mine tell me that one this AM, and all I could do is shake my head.
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