Seattlecfi

Mine was automatic on the next months check.

upndsky

Yup, done automatically. It's a standard amount based on whether you need an EKG or not. If you can get it done cheaper, you pocket the difference. If it costs you more, you make up the difference. I think in most cases, you'll come out ahead. However, in CA, that may not be the case.

buzzpat

Thanks guys. Yep, its a little more expensive here. Must be all of the illegals getting their class 1's also.

buzzpat

The Phase One integration stuff is on the net. Most notable changes are to the push back procedures (for old DAL guys). Only takes a few minutes to go through it. Has to be certified by April 1 (or first rotation in April).

IMHO, the new push back stuff is dorky. But its all for the good I guess.

YXnot

You are delusional,, get help!

gmcd05

Ok look at it from this prespective, there are not and will never be enough mainline jobs for every regional pilot to move on during the course of their careers. At this point, what incentive is there for mainline management to take back flying from regionals. These people aren't stupid. Obviously it makes business sense to outsource flying, and it will continue to happen until it does not make business sense. Just saying "lets take back this flying" does not cut it, and, frankly, the unions probably do not have the bargaining power to take back a significant amount of flying.

I think some constructive discussion to make the situation better for all pilots is needed, especially something that does not screw over either the major airlines or the pilot's of regional airlines. Sorry for hijacking the thread, and I'm not trying to flame, but I just think people need to actually think about the business case and the QOL for ALL pilots in the near term, not just those currently at the major's.

KC10 FATboy

Ok, I will bite. What business case is there?

When you're finished, I'm going to make the SAFETY case against it. (poorly trained, inexperienced pilots flying bigger and more complex aircraft, who are probably working another job to make ends meet, whose passengers don't really understand that their safety is being farmed out for a buck, ironically some wouldn't care if it saved them a $).

-Fatty

Imapilot2

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or you actually feel this way. I will bite. If you actually feel this way I hope that you have flown the regionals for some years before you stand on the soap box. Are there less experienced pilots at the regionals? Yes but we are talking about some new hire fo's. So what. Way to broad of a brush stroke with what you said. But maybe you were just being sarcastic and didn't mean what you said. That would be something we would expect out of the media not a pilot.

RockyBoy

Not sure if I should even comment here, but I disagree.

All the DCI training programs are on par if not better than what we have at Delta. The Delta program is by no means a shining star of how training should be done. I wouldn't say they are poorly trained.

All the DCI captains have the experience required to become a Delta pilot if they choose to give it a shot and they pass the interview process. They might not be who Delta wants, but they do have the experience. Some of the FO's are inexperienced, but I wouldn't say that is a safety factor given the training programs they have. I would say they are less experienced, but not inexperienced.

I'd also bet there are just as many Delta guys with second jobs and distractions as there are DCI guys. Just my opinion from spending 7 years in the regional world and now a couple at Delta.

johnso29

It's a broad brush, but there is a degree of certainty to it. When regional airlines pay so little that they have to hire pilots with WET/Temp/Paper Commercial certificates that they just got at 250 hours TT, we have safety issues in this industry. Not only is it unfair to our paying passengers, it's unfair to the CAs that have to fly with the less experienced co-pilots.

I speak from experience. I had many 500 hour wonders at COEX, that to really no fault of their own,(other then very little experience) had no situational awareness under NORMAL ops. What happens in ABNORMAL ops? Heck, I could even put my head down on a visual approach. I had to watch EVERY second to ensure that they were slowing, configuring, staying on glidepath, etc.

I can think of 7 recent accidents in which 5 were Regionals. The 2 which involved Legacies resulted in 0 fatalities. I wish I could say the same for all of the other 5. (May those who passed RIP)

I realize that there are Regional Pilots who are out there that are more experienced then I am, and I'm not saying that all Regional pilots are unsafe. I'm just saying that one has to question the safety of a lot of these contracter operations that run very cheap. They pay their pilots squat, and it scares me to think what corners they cut on MX.

Flame suit donned.