Wow, Did you even really read my post? I clearly stated I felt the E170/175 should be mainline. Here is a repost of parts since you did not read all of the first post.

""I believe its with the EMB170/175 and they should be at the mainline.""

""I think a excellent start would be for Delta to bring the E170/175 into the mainline. Some of that flying would be dropped in the transition as no longer cost viable but the net result I think would be a significant gain in mainline jobs. Not 1 for 1 as the jets come over but still a large gain.
This takes pressure off other airlines to allow outsourcing larger jets especially the CAL/UAL deal and a possible future contract at AMR if the NMB ever allows them back into mediation. ""

One change was the assumptions which were made on the cost of under wing support. Delta consolidated and absorbed thousands of rampers and gate agents who then became Delta employees. The cost differential between mainline and regional disappeared. Another change was the restructuring of DCI agreements. To the best of my knowledge, we have never even requested copies of those Contracts. According to both management and ALPA, merger synergies account for billions. A whole lot changed in our network. It just wasn't a question anyone wanted the answer to.I am not assuming anything. I want to see the numbers. Our MEC should have at least got the numbers and considered the economics before holding the Compass vote (just one recent example)Absolutely true. But, we have been guilty of running our evaluations with the mainline cost remaining static instead of looking for ways to make it work here at Delta. That is a political bias.

The problem with a pure economic approach to scope is that the numbers are constantly variable. If purely economic, then our views on who we represent and who is a Delta pilot changes hourly. At some point we have to lock down our data range.

I argue that there are long term imperatives which require we find a way to make this flying work at Delta without killing our feed and without having it cost pilots on larger equipment anything. Unless we change our political bias to one which protects Delta jobs and promotes ALPA we are facing long term irrelevance. Bill Swelbar in his blog reports that Lee Moak agrees. That is great if true. I remain skeptical until I read direct quotes from my ALPA leadership.Well stated. I agree, and Compass would have made the perfect start. But, we would have had to do it at their status quo while closing the scope exception which allowed Compass to exist off list. We could have led the industry in showing how to recapture flying.

But, at the end of the day, we mostly need a change in our internal politics. We need leadership that understands every Delta job is important and that we gain every time a new Delta pilots that we represent is hired. We need to approach our economic evaluations with a "unity" bias.

Thanks for your your post.

It seems the 50 seaters are slowly dying from an economic standpoint. It's obvious that several Regional CEO's are recognizing this, as we can see them scrambling for consolidation and larger RJs.

So, how do we recapture 76 seat flying? The EMB175 is easier to tackle then the CRJ900. There are far less EMB175's in the system, but the CRJ900's are plentiful. Just look at Pinnacle, Mesaba, ASA, & Skywest.

So how do we take them back?

Call me crazy, but maybe the first step would be our leadership saying that Scope is important.

Did you read the Council 20 Update this morning? For those outside the DTW council, here's what was said:

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Some pilots have expressed concern with Captain O’Malley for failing to address scope in his letter. Scope was previously addressed by the MEC in resolution 09-144; a Council 20 submitted resolution. The resolution was unanimously approved by the MEC. The resolution states:

Agenda Item 09-144 Mainline Flying Restoration – submitted by Council 20

Maker: Hay Second: McDonald Passed: Unanimous.

BE IT RESOLVED the Delta Master Executive Council affirms its commitment to enforcing and improving all sections of the Pilot Working Agreement, and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED the Delta Master Executive Council affirms Section 1 of the Pilot Working Agreement is an integral part of a comprehensive strategy to protect the careers of all Delta pilots.

The DAL MEC has committed to protecting and improving scope. The Negotiating Committee takes direction from the elected representatives; who take it from you, the line pilot. Please participate in the process as the MEC Chairman has requested. At the November MEC meeting, the MEC directed the Scheduling Committee to create a rotation questionnaire, e.g. preferences on rotation length, mixing international and domestic in a rotation, flight time per day, etc. We hope to have the questionnaire available for your participation soon.

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I personally would like a stronger statement, than a "eh, we said it last year"

Lol. I was about to post the same thing.

As a union, our concern is labor. I do not particularly care what kind of airplane it is, who owns it, or where it operates. My concern is with who flies the airplane.

There are several road maps to recapture. I've written several. The very first step is to educate our pilots on the value of unity and turn around our political will.

When we have the political will, we can find a way. After all, the giants who made our union started with nothing. They created lists, fought management to gain legitimacy and scoped 100% of their flying from nothing while increasing pay to levels approaching 400% more than we have now. It can be done, it would be easier for us than it was for them.

Quarterly CQ Problems
 

Thanks for all the help everyone, I finally got QCQ disk to run. I down loaded the latest flash player and it still didn't work. Then I remembered someone posted, try CrossOver. I went to the programers website and they let you try it for free for 30 days. So, I downloaded it and it ran the QCQ disk. My problem was I was not getting the full page to load. The blue nav bar on the bottom of the page was missing. So, if you have a MAC and are having problems, try this. The IT help desk is useless, maybe they should outsource the IT to Mumbai India.:D It shouldn't take a day and a half to get your QCQ done. Good Luck.

thanks guys on the 88 to 9 info, I appreciate it.

How do you tell PBS to only build you a Reserve line without even attempting a Regular line?

I thought I knew how to do this, but I can't seem to figure it out. Thanks.

That is too bad. I ran the QCQ on my iMac without issues (no Crossover). Suggest try downloading again and reinstalling. Might work.

BTW, I have had issues with Crossover recently running XP programs on Mac. Also, if you did not see the special on MS Word for Mac - check out the Employee Perks section for the deets.