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^^^^^ This is dead on. Hopefully their willingness to cut mainline while expanding our regional flying will wake us up. I'm hoping the timing of this just as we are preparing for negotiations will remind us that if we give them a mile, they will take 5,280 feet. Let's not make this mistake again!

I don't know why guys are so shocked the management is taking the large RJ's right up to the limit. Did anyone honestly think they would do anything less? :confused:

acl65pilot

05-19-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 996010)

I talked my last Captain into thinking about the early out. He didn't even know about it. After I told him about it and the LOA he downloaded it and the entire last leg he was doing the math. I think he is on his way out. Turns 60 this year and already has his house in The Villages.

Ha, yeah there are a lot of pilots like that. I just few with two 60P FO's and both said that they are doing the math on it, but will both be punching out in the next two years either way. One was just waiting to pay off his house and then he way gone.

forgot to bid

05-19-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 995993)

Once they get 5,280 feet they'll go ahead and move on over to 5,320 feet. Then they'll claim if we don't give more than a mile we'll all lose big, ALPA echoes it and so they then get an MOU signed that allows it to be moved to 6,000 feet as long as we give up something else. :D:rolleyes:

tsquare

05-19-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 996033)

Lots of people do the math.. until anybody pulls the handles, it is just a bunch of talk.

I still think there will be fewer than 10. :D

Ferd149

05-19-2011 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 995996)

Bar, I am not too sure, Asia seems to be rebounding, at least to the Financial Centers. The Beach Destinations are not recovering "as quickly" but we are full on many of the Trans-pacs and the O and D out of NRT to most of Asia.

I see a lot of this travel coming back, and it would be foolish to park a jet like the 744 because of the slump. The only way I see them doing that is if they ink an agreement with Jet Airways to get their 777-300's along with a few orders. The 744 is a cargo beast and makes its money there. From talking to their crews, they are full.

I agree with all of the above. But, sometimes you have to wonder how stuff like this is tracked. If you cancel service, like NGO and KIX, to the beaches then you cancel marketing to those locations. If you cancel the marketing, how do you know if the demand returns? I'm sure there are smart people who know how that works......at least I hope there are.

The agents in Saipan are visably worried about how the loads out of NRT have fallen off.

United is making big plans for the invasion of Guam after they take over AirMico.

Ferd <----killing time in Narita, yes I should be in the gym:D

Carl Spackler

05-19-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 995877)

Satch,

This is just a little overboard IMO. You have to stop watching FOX news brotha. The US media does nothing but spread fear.

Yeah...better to watch that truly balanced bunch at MSNBC.

Don't look now johnso29, but I think your "girl" is giving you the look!

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/wp...hel_maddow.jpg

Carl

RiddleEagle18

05-19-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 995983)

You see that too?

More like an acquisition. It is also in line with a large a/c order. You need a good stock price and good liquidity to finance the down payment on 100+ hulls.

Me thinks HI and then AS. HI will be a trow away if need be.

ACL,

Ive been thinking about HI lately too. I think it would be a great acquisition for delta to make with one exception.

The Hawaiians really love a home team. I think it would be in the best interest of the company and the pilots if the seniority list and operations were merged but allow the Hawaiian name to continued to be used for the intra-island stuff. Just delta/delta pilots DBA Hawaiian. Thoughts?

Scoop

05-19-2011 07:24 PM

Two Quick Points:

1. Great job by the SOT! About time on a lot of these.
2. As far as parking trips - It is total BS - Any time a Pilot gives up a trip it should be permanently gone. Simple fix you can trade trips all you want with your "Buddies" you just can't take the same trip back.

Scoop

TeddyKGB

05-19-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 996038)

Lots of people do the math.. until anybody pulls the handles, it is just a bunch of talk.

I still think there will be fewer than 10. :D

When does the bid close for the early out? When will the takers be removed from the seniority list and gone. Hopefully a bunch will jump but I'm not holding my breath.

forgot to bid

05-19-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 996046)

Yeah...better to watch that truly balanced bunch at MSNBC.

Don't look now johnso29, but I think your "girl" is giving you the look!

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/wp...hel_maddow.jpg

Carl

Who is that dude?

:D

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