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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 995875)
The cuts in question are mostly normal for the fall. There will be very little if any downward movement for a winter flying reduction. The cuts beyond the normal Atlantic cuts will only be a few percent. Note with the official announcement today the effect on the stock price. Wall street wants reductions. We will spin every reduction in the press into more then it is.
Half of statistics are false :D The way it is presented makes it sound horrible, but it is the normal two quarter Europe Pull down, plus a few basis points. A lot of this capacity cut will be managed though shifting equipment to different routes. AF for example will probably take a 777 out of ATL and replace it with a 33/340 but then fly that 777 to somewhere like CUN. |
Originally Posted by n9810f
(Post 995878)
I'm hearing 2 747-400's go to Marana this summer once their heavy's are due...then 2 additional 744's go back to the lease companies in 2012, with the 2 744's at MZJ coming back to the fleet with mods. Who knows...
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
(Post 995928)
Speaking on behalf of those few hundred hired last year, I beg to differ...I think Bar's prediction of furloughs will not materialize, with FedEx, SWA, Atlas, and several other carriers hiring, combined with the upcoming retirements. A furlough is not cost effective unless it lasts two years or more, from the senior captains I've talked to; likewise, RA has made the statement in the last couple of months that, "Delta is not a furlough airline."
Even if there was one, it certainly wouldn't last long. If the talk over in NRT is any indication of this early out, the numbers should look good. Again, talk is cheap, but a lot of guys over here are matter of fact about punching out. It will interesting to see what the numbers are July 1. |
In the meantime the company is all but declaring war on us on the eve of negotiations by barfing every single large RJ they can and signing on every foreign code share they can even as we face continued stagnation and the response from them and the union (by the tone of what they say as well as the content they do not say) clearly screams "a contract is a contract! nah nanny nah nah!" and we are supposed to think this is tactically wise and paving the way for "peace in our time" via constructive engagement or whatever. While I don't think we need a Dubinsky style approach at this time, we need to be turning up the heat a little bit when it comes to rhetoric over certain things because as it stands now, even if the company was hard core in love with this pilot group, if all we do is say "thank you sir may we have another!" can we really blame them for what they do to us?[/QUOTE]
^^^^^ This is dead on. Hopefully their willingness to cut mainline while expanding our regional flying will wake us up. I'm hoping the timing of this just as we are preparing for negotiations will remind us that if we give them a mile, they will take 5,280 feet. Let's not make this mistake again! |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 995960)
Without the numbers in front of me, I can not be sure, but it seems the 747-400 is around 30% more expensive per RSM than the 777-200. The 777-300 is the answer for what Delta needs, but those require Cap Ex.
Back when we ran the merger numbers it was obvious which airplanes would go away in which order. The surprise has been that the strength of our network supported them as long as they did. While NRT is not being talked about much, I'm sure that mess tanked the justification for keeping the 747's on the short term. It would take digging into the cargo numbers to figure out if the 747 is a keeper. (It would seem Japan needs a Berlin Airlift, but that has not materialized) In really crazy coincidences which mean nothing, Virgin has a dozen 747-400's. Now that BA/AA is tied up and Virgin's got the "Office of Fair Trading" up their butt, they need friends sooner rather than later. I see a lot of this travel coming back, and it would be foolish to park a jet like the 744 because of the slump. The only way I see them doing that is if they ink an agreement with Jet Airways to get their 777-300's along with a few orders. The 744 is a cargo beast and makes its money there. From talking to their crews, they are full. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 995990)
I agree. Unless this company can shrink at least 15% for at least three years, furloughing is not a good idea. If they did,they would be caught with their plants down, wrt to pilot staffing.
If the talk over in NRT is any indication of this early out, the numbers should look good. Again, talk is cheap, but a lot of guys over here are matter of fact about punching out. It will interesting to see what the numbers are July 1. |
I talked my last Captain into thinking about the early out. He didn't even know about it. After I told him about it and the LOA he downloaded it and the entire last leg he was doing the math. I think he is on his way out. Turns 60 this year and already has his house in The Villages.
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 995578)
Heyas FtB,
I have long wondered about why they're not doing this already. It seems like really, really easy pickings for SWAs quirky advertising methodology. That copy practically writes itself. So why don't they? They certainly seem to be willing to press-to-test on other aspects of the business, like bags fly free and whatnot. The only guesses that I can come up with are: 1) They don't want to poison the well for when they'd like to use RJs. 2) It's considered a taboo subject through some kind of informal, unoffical agreement, sort of like claiming how great your safety record is, or how smooth the landings are. Take your pick. Suffice to say I predict that we NEVER see anything like this from SWA. Nu YouTube - ‪Southwest Small Plane‬‏ How do you post youtube video right onto the message anyway? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAa1xum5-o0 |
Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
(Post 995769)
Negative, they won't be allowed to swap with open time. ONLY pilot to pilot swap board.
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Originally Posted by flyBanana
(Post 996012)
Here's the video of SWA making fun of RJs
YouTube - ‪Southwest Small Plane‬‏ How do you post youtube video right onto the message anyway? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAa1xum5-o0 As to how to post a youtube video, quote mine and you'll see how it was written out. Basically cut and past everything after the = in the address bar. |
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