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LeineLodge 01-05-2011 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 925551)
Ask 80 or Bar. They're both on it. I think they work as much as us. :D

Ha! That's what I'm trying to get away from.

johnso29 01-05-2011 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 925552)
Ha! That's what I'm trying to get away from.

On second thought, you're senior to me. 80 spends most of his time on reserve playing with trains and sleeping at home. :D

exeagle 01-05-2011 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 925505)
So, the A320 that landed in the Hudson, USAir 1549, is headed to a CLT museum.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...icleInline.jpg

I do think the DC-9-40 ought to be headed to join the 762 Spirit of Delta as "once flown by Newk." Just thinking.

Speaking of the 9, let's talk about the 9. Guys flying it want to share some insight and thoughts about the bird in case there is an ATL base? A friend and I were talking about it today and it'd be nice to hear some thoughts of the transition back to non-FMS, trip QOL and other pertinent line pilot stuff. Thinking about it, maybe on this AE maybe on the next.


Flies great, fun plane, a real antique..... but you will be a zombie after a 4 or 5 day trip. Ah yes, it is hot as hell, too.

Bucking Bar 01-05-2011 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 925334)
The cost savings to outsource flying is always carefully monitored by DALPA. The ALPA economic analysis team is considered by even most airline managements to be the best around. This was especially true in the 1113 contract where the company had to put their case for outsourcing before a judge.

Our E&FA team is good. It is a shame we do not employ it properly. Politics drive our evaluations. We avoid asking the right questions at the opportune time.

We have failed to evaluate the benefit of insourcing. When the Compass question was raised, I was disappointed to learn our MEC's evaluation was based on bankruptcy economic modeling that was irrelevant after the restructuring and merger. We needed new numbers. Resolutions were passed asking for the MEC to perform its job and obtain economic analysis, the Delta reps voted for "no action" while the NWA Reps disagreed along a straight party line vote. Obviously ... politics drove our "no action" on an economic evaluation of insourcing, or recovering our flying.

Questions we need to look at include:
(1) What is the long term effect on our bargaining power as jobs are outsourced?
(2) How much money is lost by Delta pilots, as jobs are outsourced and they wait until later in their career to become "mainline" pilots? (lost longevity)
(3) How much money is lost by Delta pilots due stagnation?
(4) From the union perspective, what are the threats to the relevance and continued viability of ALPA if outsourcing continues, or grows?
(5) What are the risks and threats during future economic downturns?
(6) What can we do to ensure Delta pilots are treated at least equally to other employee groups in corporate transactions?
(7) How has outsourcing harmed ALPA's relevance?

The DPA might just answer a couple of those questions for us. (Note: I am not a DPA supporter and believe our best shot is properly employing ALPA to achieve restoration)

Bucking Bar 01-05-2011 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 925552)
Ha! That's what I'm trying to get away from.

PM sent.

It is like the 320 with a shop vac in the cockpit which travels to Manaus and almost has enough fuel to get back.

georgetg 01-05-2011 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 925574)
PM sent.

It is like the 320 with a shop vac in the cockpit which travels to Manaus and almost has enough fuel to get back.

tht's awesome add to that it's either recline or slide the seat back, not both ;-)

Cheers
George

80ktsClamp 01-05-2011 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 925571)
Our E&FA team is good. It is a shame we do not employ it properly. Politics drive our evaluations. We avoid asking the right questions at the opportune time.

We have failed to evaluate the benefit of insourcing. When the Compass question was raised, I was disappointed to learn our MEC's evaluation was based on bankruptcy economic modeling that was irrelevant after the restructuring and merger. We needed new numbers. Resolutions were passed asking for the MEC to perform its job and obtain economic analysis, the Delta reps voted for "no action" while the NWA Reps disagreed along a straight party line vote. Obviously ... politics drove our "no action" on an economic evaluation of insourcing, or recovering our flying.

Questions we need to look at include:
(1) What is the long term effect on our bargaining power as jobs are outsourced?
(2) How much money is lost by Delta pilots, as jobs are outsourced and they wait until later in their career to become "mainline" pilots? (lost longevity)
(3) How much money is lost by Delta pilots due stagnation?
(4) From the union perspective, what are the threats to the relevance and continued viability of ALPA if outsourcing continues, or grows?
(5) What are the risks and threats during future economic downturns?
(6) What can we do to ensure Delta pilots are treated at least equally to other employee groups in corporate transactions?
(7) How has outsourcing harmed ALPA's relevance?

The DPA might just answer a couple of those questions for us. (Note: I am not a DPA supporter and believe our best shot is properly employing ALPA to achieve restoration)


Absolutely agreed 100%. VERY good post!

Until the scope pendulem swings the other way, the "dead zoners" and all others will NEVER have the bargaining power needed to get the money they want. A huge amount of our power in the next contract needs to be given toward scope recapture (on all ends, JV and small jet scope).

CVG767A 01-06-2011 03:19 AM

Prague to the A330
 
A gate agent in Prague mentioned that JFK-PRG will be flown by the A330 this summer. Can anybody corroborate this? Is this the beginning of the shift of European flying to the Bus (with the corresponding shift of the 767ER to the Pacific)?

Maybe this is the payback for those great Luanda layovers...

sailingfun 01-06-2011 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 925596)
A gate agent in Prague mentioned that JFK-PRG will be flown by the A330 this summer. Can anybody corroborate this? Is this the beginning of the shift of European flying to the Bus (with the corresponding shift of the 767ER to the Pacific)?

Maybe this is the payback for those great Luanda layovers...

The shift of 330 flying to Europe started last Spring. The 330 picked up several destinations. The overall plan seems to be to put the 330 or the 767-400 on many of the routes in the summer when loads are high. Then it shifts back to the ER in the fall. The scheduling guru's stated that they expected more of the 767-400 flying to stick year round this year. We will see if that happens. There was also a plan to remove the bunks from all the 767T's this winter and use the 330's on the routes over 12. That has changed and the T's will be getting bunks with the lie flat mod under the floor.
I suspect that the international is never going to be stable. As the markets shift the aircraft will be moving all the time. Europe seems to run on a 4 year up and down cycle so bidding a aircraft for the current trips it flies might be futile.

Jughead 01-06-2011 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 925465)
It was confusing figuring out the menu page to get the correct module working. Select the menu item on the top far right that is "highlighted"; it's not really highlighted, it just looks different. Hope this helps.

I thought the same thing when I did the cd on my PC. The navigation aspect isn't anything like it was in the past - even got to the point where I called Delta IT, but the wait times/phone tree/chat room help had me hang up. I finally figured it out, but it shouldn't be this much of a pain. You also have to go in order - no skipping around.

But I did get 39 minutes of pay...sweet.


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