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forgot to bid 10-28-2010 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 892071)
After that they should fix the wing, elevator, flight controls, ground lift dumpers, engines, hydraulic system, dial a flap insanity, center of gravity, nose wheel steering, electrical system and autopilot.

I understand the fuselage skins are great. The airplane isn't ALL bad.

The Douglas Jets love you Bar and everyone you love just like Delta loves it. :D

Old woman to DC-9 pilot: "HOW OLD IS THIS THIS PLANE?"
DC-9 pilot: "It's got a few years on it."
Old woman: "IS IT SAFE?!"
DC-9 pilot: "It wouldn't be old if it wasn't safe."

http://www.dc-8jet.com/Images/logo-f...ts-sign-lg.jpg

:D

acl65pilot 10-28-2010 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 892024)
Perhaps this article can provide some "inspiration"

Saudi Arabian 'committed' to 787 despite apparent 777 plan

Cheers
George


Inspiration? Nah, but a would not mind giving them our 787 slots for a few of their 777-300's and some of the 787-800 slots later. Oh wait.....:eek:

forgot to bid 10-28-2010 01:34 PM

New 737 cabin http://www.boeing.com/Features/2010/...ca_bsi_400.jpg

Now the 777-300, ER? I see its got a 20% fuel burn advantage over the 744, carries in the mid 400 passenger range in a 2-class and the 300 is the best selling 777. How come we didn't get it before?

NuGuy 10-28-2010 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 891827)
Delta will end regional service in four markets
October 27, 2010



Delta will suspend regional service in four poorly-performing markets this winter as it streamlines its fleet and reduces less-efficient turboprops and small jet aircraft from the Delta Connection fleet.

Service will end at Lynchburg, Va.; Florence, S.C.; and London, Ontario, on Jan. 4. Seasonal service at Hilton Head, S.C., will be suspended on Monday. No Delta employees will be affected at any of these stations.

The decisions were made in part because Delta is phasing the Saab 340 turboprop out of the regional fleet, and about 50 of the 50-seat CRJ-200 aircraft are being retired this year as well. In addition, revenue and passenger loads in each of the markets had declined significantly this year.

The market suspensions come as Delta focuses on maintaining its capacity discipline and concentrating growth in profitable markets. The airline’s capacity is forecast to grow between 1% and 3% next year.

Heyas,

Glad Slow posted this as this only proves my point how you can skew the numbers.

1) Pull small RJs off city pairs that haven't seen mainline service in decades, if ever.

2) Use the statistics to claim that we are reducing RJ ASMs and numbers

3) Quietly replace mainline city-pairs with large RJs, directly outsourcing mainline jobs.

4) Total RJ ASM and hulls still lower, but now mainline pilots now effectively outsourced.

5) Repeat

6) Profit!

Nu

Scoop 10-28-2010 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 891843)
Slow,


One leading candidate for MEC Chairman told me, and I quote, "Scope does not matter." His opinion is based, like yours, on the fact that economic trends are resulting in management pulling down RJ flying. Therefore we do not need to "invest" in job protection provisions which are not needed.

Bar,

He is 100% correct! Scope does not matter .......for ALPA that is. Think about it, DAL outsources 2000 Pilot jobs to DCI, well that must suck for ALPA to lose 2000 union members. Oh thats right, I forgot, only the mainline jobs are outsourced, the union retains members since they are ALPA. :eek:

Somehow I can't see the longshoreman at Long Beach losing their jobs to newbies doing it for 50% pay-rates at competing companies - all while being in the same union. :confused:

Scoop

slowplay 10-28-2010 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 892109)
Glad Slow posted this as this only proves my point how you can skew the numbers.

1) Pull small RJs off city pairs that haven't seen mainline service in decades, if ever.

2) Use the statistics to claim that we are reducing RJ ASMs and numbers

3) Quietly replace mainline city-pairs with large RJs, directly outsourcing mainline jobs.

4) Total RJ ASM and hulls still lower, but now mainline pilots now effectively outsourced.

5) Repeat

6) Profit!

Nu

Heyas, Nu!

Can you show your math on this? This newfangled science that you're using has me confused!:eek:

I thought the forum logic was if we didn't have RJ's we'd have to fly mainline everywhere...:rolleyes:

slowplay 10-28-2010 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 892117)
Bar,

He is 100% correct! Scope does not matter .......for ALPA that is. Think about it, DAL outsources 2000 Pilot jobs to DCI, well that must suck for ALPA to lose 2000 union members. Oh thats right I forgot, only the mainline jobs are outsourced, the union retains members since they are ALPA. :eek:

Somehow I can't see the longshoreman at Long Beach losing their jobs to newbies doing it for 50% pay-rates at competing companies - all while being in the same union. :confused:

Again, help me with the math problem. Why would losing 2000 mainline paid pilots (twice the dues in your example) be better for the union in the long run?:confused:

chuck416 10-28-2010 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 892101)
New 737 cabin http://www.boeing.com/Features/2010/...ca_bsi_400.jpg

Now the 777-300, ER? I see its got a 20% fuel burn advantage over the 744, carries in the mid 400 passenger range in a 2-class and the 300 is the best selling 777. How come we didn't get it before?

Hey Fellas',
Sorry, but I honestly cannot remember. If we did acquire some new 777s, would there be fences for them. As a north guy, I can't help but day-dream. Thanks.
Chuck

iceman49 10-28-2010 02:24 PM

So how many main line jobs are lost to DGS?

nwaf16dude 10-28-2010 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 892122)
Hey Fellas',
Sorry, but I honestly cannot remember. If we did acquire some new 777s, would there be fences for them. As a north guy, I can't help but day-dream. Thanks.
Chuck

They'll be fenced unless the company buys them specifically to replace fenced north-side jets. Either way, someone will file a law-suit over it, of course.:cool:


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