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finis72 10-14-2010 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 884873)
I was told once that average lease for a commercial aircraft is about 1% the purchase price of the aircraft per month. Using that once and hearing that Coex was paying like $100K or $120K a month for their leases then their jets were coming in about 1/2 the published sale price.

If we're really paying or were going to pay $8M for an MD90 to go from China to the line and given I think the big RJs were published at prices of $35M range, not sure if thats current, but its probably a safe bet to say a CRJ900 comes in probably at least 2X the cost of 160 seat MD90.

Just curious, not going anywhere really, just playing with numbers.

An MD-90 is 11mil ready to carry DL pax

forgot to bid 10-14-2010 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 884875)
An MD-90 is 11mil ready to carry DL pax

Gotchya, not as good as I hoped but still absoultely fantastic.

acl65pilot 10-14-2010 12:33 PM

The MD-90 is a no brainer. A used 777, 744, 320, 73N would be a great deal too. No need to pay for new car smell when that new car cost as much to operate as the used one. :D (same jet to same jet)

I doubt you will see DAL order another 76 seat jet.

forgot to bid 10-14-2010 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 884882)
The MD-90 is a no brainer. A used 777, 744, 320, 73N would be a great deal too. No need to pay for new car smell when that new car cost as much to operate as the used one. :D (same jet to same jet)

I doubt you will see DAL order another 76 seat jet.

Question, would we want used 764s? According to folks at CAL they were disappointed to find the 764 had the same total operating costs as a 777.

Not sure if thats true and I'm not sure if by "total" they meant the rent cost plus doc's or just the doc's.

But I sure would like to get them anyways if they're unloading them. Sure there are strings attached to any good deal they offer us, eh?

And just maybe a 744BCF?? I've got to believe we can find something to do with just a few of those!? Or isn't those fat 747s carrying the 787 fuselages out of CHS a contract deal? As in they, I think Evergreen?, contract with airlines to fly them? Not sure, I could easily research it but my to do list is not done and wife is 10 minutes away... HA HA!

"Playing on the internet?"
"Yes... it's a free hobby mind you. And after a few more bad posts I'll finally start learning more about my bad grammar. Win-Win." :D

contrails 10-14-2010 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 884875)
An MD-90 is 11mil ready to carry DL pax

Even the EMB-175s, new, were about $19,000,000 each.

acl65pilot 10-14-2010 12:53 PM

Dunno. I know more 764's would make the fleet more efficient. Starting next Spring they should have more than enough cities to run them to our of JFK.

Scoop 10-14-2010 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 884845)
The second and third generation RJ's are more fuel efficient on a seat and stage length adjusted basis than any of our Douglas equipment except for the MD90.

Also, the company would rather fly a CRJ900 with 76 seats full than a MD90 or 73N with lower than average load factors.

Of course the CRJ 100 & 200 are up in the DC9 range on CASM.

Just advising that fuel prices will not fix our scope problem. Wishful thinking, although I am with you.


Yeah - you are right. And besides, when they do decide to fly a 73N instead of RJs it will more often than not have an Eskimo painted on the tail. You guessed it - I am an LAX 73N Pilot. :eek:

Scoop

Columbia 10-14-2010 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 884882)
No need to pay for new car smell when that new car cost as much to operate as the used one.

Regarding the "new car smell," just order and hang a bunch of these-just like new. :)

CAPTAIN CHEEKY OCEAN BREEZE AIR FRESHENER

and maybe some of these...

http://www.prankplace.com/product.as...&p=21864&c=103

Carl Spackler 10-14-2010 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 884789)
You assume too much. The vast majority of regional pilots do NOT want to stay at the regionals. They would much rather gather experience and apply for a job at a major carrier.

This is the heart of the problem IMO. This makes no sense if your goal is to work at a major. Your ruining chances for growth at a major and thus your hiring potential. If you're using the regionals to build time for a corporate gig, or a freight gig, or to be super prepared for military training, then it makes perfect sense. Otherwise...it doesn't.


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 884789)
The problem is that major airline pilots gave away the flying.

That's is indeed part of the problem. The OTHER part is the RJ pilots who take those jobs ONLY because they've agreed to cheaper wages. Then complain about no hiring at the majors.


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 884789)
Carl, I didn't hit the lottery to get to Delta. I worked my way up through a system created over decades. This is the route civilian pilots take.

No it's not! Many pilots still do corporate, or freight, or non-scheds. Not everybody goes the RJ route if you're civilian.

Carl

Carl Spackler 10-14-2010 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by formerdal (Post 884804)
You know Carl after listening to you spout your "I know all and the rest of you are idiots" diatribe for what feels like an eternity, I continue to be amazed that you are one of our pilots.

You have an ego and an attitude beyond anything I've experienced here at Delta. I can only hope that this is your webboard persona' and not the man in the cockpit. You make it very easy to oppose anything you are for just based on the way you conduct yourself here, if you are an example of what to expect from the DPA folks you can include me out...

Sorry to have offended you Nancy.

I did it again...didn't I.

Carl


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