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acl65pilot 01-07-2011 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Dirtdiver (Post 926135)
Agree. Not only does it hurt the junior pilots, but potentially the senior as well. Let's say a sweet Europe trip falls in the pot, you put in to swap a dog trip for it, but some jr guy does some trip maneuvering and whiteslips it. You miss out on the swap.

And this is all invisible to the line pilot trying to figure it out. Just shows as "requested trip not in open time".


I have to admit that I never even thought of doing that. It does harm us, because over time it will require less reserves as the block time flown per pilot will go up, thus resulting of a lower "Reserves Required" staffing number.

Rogue24 01-07-2011 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 926137)
I have to admit that I never even thought of doing that. It does harm us, because over time it will require less reserves as the block time flown per pilot will go up, thus resulting of a lower "Reserves Required" staffing number.


So does the Lower Limit Lines of Time. These will suck up the remaining open time and over time reduce the reserves required in these categories.

Word on the street is no AE today.

April one should have the 9, 320, and 330 in ATL.

acl65pilot 01-07-2011 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 926140)
So does the Lower Limit Lines of Time. These will suck up the remaining open time and over time reduce the reserves required in these categories.

Word on the street is no AE today.

April one should have the 9, 320, and 330 in ATL.

I have heard that too. They were talking about the next AE in the lounge a few days ago. That seems to jive with the best guesses.

acl65pilot 01-07-2011 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 926131)
The company has deemed this a termination offense for the flight attendants. I think you will see some joint guidance coming out from the union and the company soon. This activity is certainly against the spirit of the contract and harms the junior pilots in category.


I do not see how the company could terminate a pilot that is doing something that is allowed by the contract. Now if they put verbiage in the PWA that stated that once you traded a trip with friends it was there for good, and you could not pick it back up, that would take care of the issue.

Imapilot2 01-07-2011 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 926112)
No Delta pilot likes to see jets coming to DCI, but the simple harsh reality is that these jets are allowed by our PWA. No contract violation has occurred, and are within the limit of 255. As Reroute has pointed out they have about 23 more 70 seat jets they can take delivery of to hit the 255. They are capped at 153 76 seat jest until the mainline fleet count goes over 767. We are over 20 shy of that number right now.

What them buying 70 seat jets means is that either 1) our mainline fleet count will not go above that number for the foreseeable future, or 2) they wanted jets now and our 76 hull limit passed a stress test and they bought what they were allowed to buy.

Yes, we need to make scope a top priority, not just for 2012, but for each and every day we are engaged in talks with our company, IFALPA, and the Skyteam airlines, or anywhere else, Delta Pilot jobs may be at risk, but to date the company is in full compliance with the limitations of section one.


Isn't this about how many DC 9's NWA use to have? How many we got now? 30 something.

We don't need to be Defensive on scope in this next contract. We need to be offensive. The line of scrimmage needs to be us with the ball trying to reduce the number of 76 seaters over time.....instead of being defensive and trying to hold them back from taking more of mainline flying. I know AC is on board with this and others I hope.:cool:

boog123 01-07-2011 05:54 AM

so basically you are stuck at ALV plus 15 for time, unless you GS or pick up from a buddy. Thanks

944Turbo 01-07-2011 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 926140)
So does the Lower Limit Lines of Time. These will suck up the remaining open time and over time reduce the reserves required in these categories.

Word on the street is no AE today.

April one should have the 9, 320, and 330 in ATL.


Are they going to be reallocating assets to keep all the bases level in regards to staffing? Are they going to bring 88's or 737s to MSP to help alleviate any ripples?

acl65pilot 01-07-2011 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 926151)
Isn't this about how many DC 9's NWA use to have? How many we got now? 30 something.

We don't need to be Defensive on scope in this next contract. We need to be offensive. The line of scrimmage needs to be us with the ball trying to reduce the number of 76 seaters over time.....instead of being defensive and trying to hold them back from taking more of mainline flying. I know AC is on board with this and others I hope.:cool:


I know I would like to see us get a commitment from the company to not renew, extend, write, or modify any DCI ASA's in this round of talks. The jets should be here, but the company is going to price that very high due to commitments to these third party contractors. It is why a logical phase out makes the most sense.

acl65pilot 01-07-2011 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by 944Turbo (Post 926169)
Are they going to be reallocating assets to keep all the bases level in regards to staffing? Are they going to bring 88's or 737s to MSP to help alleviate any ripples?

What I heard was yes, on some level, they would be adding seats to the ER in SEA and MSP. Not sure about the rest, these guys are getting peppered with questions so I only could ask so much. The fact is that all of this is best guess until the AE comes out and most of this stuff is two AE's away. Lots of time for marketing to change their needs and block hr requirements to make all of these "planned" changes disappear, or become modified.

TenYearsGone 01-07-2011 06:12 AM

Somebody brought up Republic and the C series jet in the past posts.

In my opinion, I think Republic is the biggest threat to the Delta pilot. They already operate Airbus and now they are going to be the launch customer for the C series, with mx rights to "work" on all C series jets. Their CEO is shrewd and more than likely in cahoots with ours.

I hope our union is really taking scope seriously because it will bite us in the back again if we dont stop outsourcing. Giving up scope for more money is like making a deal with the devil.

FWIW, I have talked to Republic pilots and they are not in favor of outsourcing, but they have no choice since the unions accept it and endorse it.


TYG


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