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Bucking Bar 01-06-2011 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 925719)
How do you tell PBS to only build you a Reserve line without even attempting a Regular line?

Fly the MD88 or 777.

johnso29 01-06-2011 08:39 AM

Russian Junior Team kicked off DAL flight.
 
CHEEKTOWAGA, N.Y. (AP) -- Russia's gold-medal celebration went into overtime. And that prevented them from boarding their flight Thursday morning, a day after they won the World Junior Hockey Championships.

About 30 members of the Russian contingent were asked to get off a Delta Air Lines Inc. flight to Atlanta after boarding for takeoff early Thursday morning, an airport spokesman said.

"To ensure the safe operation of the flight, the crew of Flight 1266 denied boarding to 30 passengers who were traveling together and displaying unruly behavior," Delta spokeswoman Susan Chana Elliott said. "The passengers are being rebooked on a future flight."

Russia overcame a three-goal deficit in the third period to stun Canada 5-3 in the gold-medal game Wednesday night. It was the country's first gold medal since 2003.

An hour and a half after the upset win, several Russian coaches and trainers came on the ice -- one holding a bottle of Crown Royal Canadian whisky and others sipping from paper cups -- to pose for pictures in front of the scoreboard that had been lowered to ice level after the game.

The players, all 20 years old or younger, had left the ice.

Buffalo Niagara International Airport spokesman C. Douglas Hartmayer said after leaving the flight, the group headed to the baggage terminal to collect their belongings, which were taken off the plane.

Tournament officials had no immediate comment.

The Russians enjoyed a wild on-ice celebration once the final horn sounded, players throwing their gloves and sticks in the air as they jumped off the bench to mob goalie Igor Bobkov.

The celebration eventually spilled over into the media interview area, where team captain Vladimir Tarasenko and teammate Yevgeni Kuznetsov hugged and chanted "We're champions! We're champions."

The Russians proved to be the comeback kids during the 11-day tournament. They reached the final by overcoming third-period deficits to win their previous two games.

They weren't counted among the favorites in a tournament that featured Canada and the defending champion United States. Russia was also coming off an embarrassing sixth-place finish last year.

Associated Press Sports Writer John Wawrow contributed to this report.

sailingfun 01-06-2011 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 925700)
One change was the assumptions which were made on the cost of under wing support. Delta consolidated and absorbed thousands of rampers and gate agents who then became Delta employees. The cost differential between mainline and regional disappeared. Another change was the restructuring of DCI agreements.


This is not quite correct. If you get a chance ask to speak with a station manager at a consolidated station. You will learn that we charge DCI for every single service we provide. Its a huge profit source for the mainline. If the CLT station sprays the frost off the wings of a ASA jet in the morning they are charged 750.00 dollars. They are charged for every departure for the agents time. They are charged for baggage handling and all other services. By consolidating they have reduced the overall head count at many stations. They plug the DCI flights in between mainline flights when workers were watching TV In the lounges and then they charge the DCI airlines for everything we do. This has a substantial positive effect on the bottom line at many stations.
If you bring the flying back to the mainline you lose that revenue stream. If anything the consolidation may have shifted the cost equation more in favor if keeping the flying at DCI.

Bucking Bar 01-06-2011 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 925734)
This is not quite correct. If you get a chance ask to speak with a station manager at a consolidated station. You will learn that we charge DCI for every single service we provide. Its a huge profit source for the mainline. If the CLT station sprays the frost off the wings of a ASA jet in the morning they are charged 750.00 dollars. They are charged for every departure for the agents time. They are charged for baggage handling and all other services. By consolidating they have reduced the overall head count at many stations. They plug the DCI flights in between mainline flights when workers were watching TV In the lounges and then they charge the DCI airlines for everything we do. This has a substantial positive effect on the bottom line at many stations.
If you bring the flying back to the mainline you lose that revenue stream. If anything the consolidation may have shifted the cost equation more in favor if keeping the flying at DCI.


Sailing,

We agree the numbers have changed. We do not know how the numbers have changed. Statistically, the cost delta did go to zero with consolidation. I'm just sayin' we need to run the numbers. Neither of us knows what the regionals pass through to Delta under their F4D contracts. ALPA's never asked to see those contracts. Even if we plan a status quo Section 1, we still need a value on our outsourcing.

It is work well worth doing in preparation to contract 2012. Stick ACL under a NDA, put him to work.

A side point is if Delta saw value in consolidating the rampers, gate agents and others, why not the pilots?

1234 01-06-2011 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 925719)
How do you tell PBS to only build you a Reserve line without even attempting a Regular line?

I thought I knew how to do this, but I can't seem to figure it out. Thanks.

When you first start your bid, you will have 2 options:

-Start Pairings
-Start Reserve

Just choose the Start Reserve option.

DAL 88 Driver 01-06-2011 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 925715)
thanks guys on the 88 to 9 info, I appreciate it.

If you get serious about bidding the 9, I think the suggestion to ride the jump seat is a good one. If you want to come ride my jump seat sometime, PM me.

Cogf16 01-06-2011 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 925034)
Tickets on DL, ATL-DFW are double normal to $600 Feb 4-7. What's going on? :)
Hope not too many have to commute.
Interestingly, prices have also increased from BOS, PIT, EWR, and PHL, but for some reason have remained constant from MSP. :D

Superbowl in Dallas.

Thrust Normal 01-06-2011 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 925734)


This is not quite correct. If you get a chance ask to speak with a station manager at a consolidated station. You will learn that we charge DCI for every single service we provide. Its a huge profit source for the mainline. If the CLT station sprays the frost off the wings of a ASA jet in the morning they are charged 750.00 dollars. They are charged for every departure for the agents time. They are charged for baggage handling and all other services. By consolidating they have reduced the overall head count at many stations. They plug the DCI flights in between mainline flights when workers were watching TV In the lounges and then they charge the DCI airlines for everything we do. This has a substantial positive effect on the bottom line at many stations.
If you bring the flying back to the mainline you lose that revenue stream. If anything the consolidation may have shifted the cost equation more in favor if keeping the flying at DCI.

You do realize that that's just recycled money since Delta pays them on a cost plus basis.

acl65pilot 01-06-2011 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 925700)
One change was the assumptions which were made on the cost of under wing support. Delta consolidated and absorbed thousands of rampers and gate agents who then became Delta employees. The cost differential between mainline and regional disappeared. Another change was the restructuring of DCI agreements.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 925734)
This is not quite correct. If you get a chance ask to speak with a station manager at a consolidated station. You will learn that we charge DCI for every single service we provide. Its a huge profit source for the mainline. If the CLT station sprays the frost off the wings of a ASA jet in the morning they are charged 750.00 dollars. They are charged for every departure for the agents time. They are charged for baggage handling and all other services. By consolidating they have reduced the overall head count at many stations. They plug the DCI flights in between mainline flights when workers were watching TV In the lounges and then they charge the DCI airlines for everything we do. This has a substantial positive effect on the bottom line at many stations.
If you bring the flying back to the mainline you lose that revenue stream. If anything the consolidation may have shifted the cost equation more in favor if keeping the flying at DCI.


And how many of these costs that we charge a DCI carrier and then passed right back to DAL Inc? A lot I would assume. Unless you look at the ASA's you have no idea.

IMO, it is a good idea to know the business model being run, especially with this outsourced flying.

80ktsClamp 01-06-2011 09:36 AM

Wasn't the rumor that the next AE was coming out tomorrow?


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