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nwaf16dude 01-16-2011 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 931151)
Sailing I don't doubt that a bit but in a way if everything is done on CD and the only thing you really do at the training center is the ftds and sims why go through the expense of making a move or dealing with 1 facility?

You could, like you said, move every MSP sim, once the 9 is retired, to ATL. There are I think 13 bays that are either opened or belong to MD11s and an L1011 and I think there are 12 sims in MSP (not including the 9).

But why? Delta of old maybe would've but this isn't necessarily Delta of old nor is the training system the same. But if it happens it happens, I just hope they get some lighting, paint, carpets and a clean up crew in OC1. The place is messy. 2 is better and 3 is fantastic, but 1... could use a little sprucing up.

I know that the MD11 sim still stays pretty busy with guys from World. Don't know how much revenue that generates, or whether it's enough to keep it operating. Probably still plenty of room for the MSP sims.

sinca3 01-16-2011 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 930985)
I heard a nasty rumor that the MD88/90 mods are on hold. It appears the single galley in front of first class isn't cutting it. I was told too many first class passengers complained about all four FAs going back and forth past them to get to the only galley and trash bins.

Anyone hear the same?

From my understanding it has been on hold for a little over a month. This from LCPs and the ATL CPO.

dragon 01-16-2011 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 931169)
Looks like the company finally realizes that they must do better during IROPS.

I worked for a CO that said repeatedly that "Hope is not a plan". During 2008 we saw the Company buy out a lot of folks who worked behind the scenes and replace them with "technology". Well as many have pointed out, we're using yesterday's technology tomorrow.

We are thin staffed at any number of points. They put off hiring pilots too late last year and now they are paying a bunch of us to sit at home awaiting training, because they didn't want to bring new hires in at their inflated salaries to over staff some categories so that we could adequately staff other categories.

We have been running lean. Like a long distance runner, that's ok. The problem is when the marathoner is asked to sprint and there aren't any stores of fat to draw upon. Ok, maybe not the best analogy but I hope you get my point. The MBA types don't study history, so they are doomed to repeat it. Corporate America did this in the late 1990s and into the early 2000s, they then bemoaned the lack of good workers.

In order to provide good customer experience we need to staff above the bare minimum at all levels and that includes people behind the scenes that customers don't see. Crew tracking and accommodations work ok during normal ops, but they're stretched. So throw in a major IROP and it falls apart. The mahogany row was hoping that one major IROP was all we had to deal with this winter, too late they learned "Hope is not a plan".

johnso29 01-16-2011 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 931171)
I know that the MD11 sim still stays pretty busy with guys from World. Don't know how much revenue that generates, or whether it's enough to keep it operating. Probably still plenty of room for the MSP sims.

Another problem is instructors. A lot of unhappy DGS guys. Plus they want to take on more contracts, but can't cover what we have now.

tsquare 01-16-2011 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 930966)
Guys,

Are there any gyms or YMCAs near the Downtown ST Paul Hotel? Nice Hotel, Nice location, but the fitness center is a joke. Two treadmills, of which one works good, a broken Cybex nautilas type machine, dumbells but not a single exercise bench, oh yeah, and broken glass on the floor from a broken mirror where apparantly the duct tape repair did not cut it.

Is there a reason that we don't layover in downtown MSP anyway?

Scoop

YGTBKM.. I walked down to the Subway yesterday, and my feet were frozen.... I can't imagine working up a sweat and then getting back to the hotel without severe hypothermia.... yowsah!

Denny Crane 01-16-2011 07:19 PM

Congrats NewK! I thought it was going to be closer game than it was..... The best team definitely won! Looking forward to the da Pack vs da Bears!!:D

Denny

80ktsClamp 01-16-2011 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by JetFlyer06 (Post 931166)
Is there still a sim boxed up in ATL? There was one near the 88 sims when I was there in August not sure which type or even if it was an actual sim tho.

It wasn't a sim... it was a new visual for one of the current sims.

Sure made for some nice rumors!

KC10 FATboy 01-16-2011 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 931194)
YGTBKM.. I walked down to the Subway yesterday, and my feet were frozen.... I can't imagine working up a sweat and then getting back to the hotel without severe hypothermia.... yowsah!

Ah its not that bad. I've walked down to the Irish pubs on 7th street from the hotel during major snowstorms. It was the ears not feet, that I worried about.

RockyBoy 01-16-2011 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 931184)
I worked for a CO that said repeatedly that "Hope is not a plan". During 2008 we saw the Company buy out a lot of folks who worked behind the scenes and replace them with "technology". Well as many have pointed out, we're using yesterday's technology tomorrow.

We are thin staffed at any number of points. They put off hiring pilots too late last year and now they are paying a bunch of us to sit at home awaiting training, because they didn't want to bring new hires in at their inflated salaries to over staff some categories so that we could adequately staff other categories.

We have been running lean. Like a long distance runner, that's ok. The problem is when the marathoner is asked to sprint and there aren't any stores of fat to draw upon. Ok, maybe not the best analogy but I hope you get my point. The MBA types don't study history, so they are doomed to repeat it. Corporate America did this in the late 1990s and into the early 2000s, they then bemoaned the lack of good workers.

In order to provide good customer experience we need to staff above the bare minimum at all levels and that includes people behind the scenes that customers don't see. Crew tracking and accommodations work ok during normal ops, but they're stretched. So throw in a major IROP and it falls apart. The mahogany row was hoping that one major IROP was all we had to deal with this winter, too late they learned "Hope is not a plan".

We could overstaff all the crew tracking, scheduling, ramp, agents, etc. in Atlanta to cover stuff during an IROP and it wouldn't matter one bit because nobody will come to work when it snows. So then you have the overhead of staffing for an IROP and nobody will show up during an IROP.

I think the answer to our Crew Tracking and Scheduling issues lie in the use of better technology and possibly the ability to run that technology from home. Then when we have an IROP they can pay normal schedulers overtime to modify rotations and send out notifications from home. With today's technology and video conferencing abilities I don't see why they all need to be sitting next to each other in the OCC.

The answer in getting the rampers, agents, etc to get to work during a snowstorm lies in the city of Atlanta having more than 5 snowplows for when it snows and some trucks that can apply an anti-icing brine solution when they expect ice.

FmrFreightDog 01-16-2011 08:50 PM

nevermind....


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