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Quick side question, anyone know how to change company business travel arrangements to-from training? Travelnet blocks the "Change Reservation" button?

Also what time is check-in at the doubletree? Im assuming its 3 pm

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Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 932671)

Quick side question, anyone know how to change company business travel arrangements to-from training? Travelnet blocks the "Change Reservation" button?

Call the CPSC and either tell them what you want your flights to be, or have then cancel the whole thing and you book it yourself as Company Business. I prefer the latter as I can change the flights later on without calling anyone.

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Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 932671)

Just book another Company Business reservation. It will let you.

I think it's 3. They are putting people all over down here. We have a lot of guys in training right now.

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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 932659)

Sailing,

You're wrong. The original post was about 2001. On 9/11/2001 the 727 was still going fairly strong. I was a SLC based 727 F/O. Besides SLC, we also had active bases in ATL, LAX, CVG, and IIRC NYC. Yes the drawdown had started, but there were still a bunch of 727s. Additionally, not all the F/Es were ropes, yet.

I think LAX closed first. SLC flew it's last 727 flight in May 2002, IIRC.

We may have had some other active bases. I was NYC based and flew it to the end there. DBMS shows my last NY flight was in 2000 so NY was not open in 2001. I don't think LAX was open in 2001. CVG and SLC your probably correct but CVG I think shut down in 01.

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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 932535)

JABDIP:

I'm sorry your W2 has declined. I want every DAL pilot's W2 to go up ... way up. But I will not accept pilots being less productive, flying less, or paying people to stay home. Our company simply can not do that and expect to compete.

I'd rather we stay lean and mean.

That's going to be the case no matter what. The days of senior reserves flying one day a month and guys buddy bidding with check airmen to get the entire month off (and/or picking up an identical line for triple pay) and the like are long over and are never coming back.

That said, there is PLENTY of room for improvement in all areas, including and especially reserve, and of course significant pay increases across the board. While I have no problem with productivity per say however, nothing short of awesome rigs will fix the core QOL issues we need while insuring we are productive and efficient.

Like others have mentioned, scope is the foundation of it all. The epic fail philosophy of outsourcing flying and applying that bargaining credit towards positive things we want/need has been proven counter productive time and again.

Our MEC and NC need to understand this. Scope sales are tantamount to burning the furniture to heat the house. Entirely non sustainable and ultimately result in the erosion of pay and QOL far in excess of any cookie bargaining credit that was temporarily gained at the initial point of sale. That applies not only to future scope sales but to those of the past as well. Obviously we need to avoid adding to the mistake of the past, but we also need to correct those same mistakes.

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 932640)

If not for the merger I would have been unemployed along with perhaps a thousand on my side and a thousand on your side.

Prove this statement.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 932665)

All the points you make are good. My income was down 20 percent in 09 working under the Delta contract the entire time. Had their been no merger my income would have been down 20 percent regardless. The incomes of NW pilots would also have been way down under the NWA contract without a merger. In fact its highly likely their would have been furloughs at NW with the near total collapse of the Far East Cargo and Passenger yields.(They have since bounced back and are looking much better).
Another point is the NW contract was long term with very small yearly raises. Since the merger there have been a 5,4,4 raises applied after bringing the NW rates up to Delta rates. There has also been a 1 percent increase in the DC plan. There is another 4 percent raise in 11 months.
I have a lot of friends at NW. They did very well last year and every one will make more then at any time since the chapter 11 filing. One had his best pay year ever but he flew a ton of GS's.
There were lots of differences in the contracts. Each had good points and bad points. One area there was never disagreement on between the two airlines MEC and committees was which contract to base the joint contract around. The Delta contract produced more overall value for the pilots and both sides understood that without dispute. That does not say the NW contract did not have good items. It had lots of great items but so did the Delta contract.

Geeze, a Sailing post I agree with...........what's next? :D

I agree NWA probably would have furloughed more guys without the merger but they also would have made the remainder of us fly more........and we did still had time and a half over 80. But, who knows.

I agree about the length of the old NWA contract and the biggest reason (that and Compass) was the reason I voted no on it.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 932678)

I'm sure you are right about NY.

When I got displaced in SLC I could have gone to 727 Capt in CVG (on reserve). In hindsight I regret not doing it because I really loved flying the 727 and now wish I could say I flew it in all three seats.

I think the CVG 727 base closed several months after SLC. So I would have been displaced, gone through training and IOE ,and flown it as a line Capt in CVG for a few months.

That was a great airplane!

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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 932685)

As we used to say at TWA: The 727 is a good safe airplane. It climbs like a safe, descends like a safe, and lands like a safe! :D

Anyone know if the 2 hour commute clause is a privilege that is invoked or does it have to be requested and granted at the whim of the scheduler? Also, I was told a few days ago that it had to be requested the day before, not sure about that as I can't find anything about it in the contract. Thanks in advance.