Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
The quickest, easiest, way for you to begin your review is to begin with the NWA Zip Lines. Chairman Mark McClain in his publication dated 18 October 2004 provided a synopsis of their tentative agreement which was designed to allow Northwest (now Delta) to achieve "safe harbor" by avoiding bankruptcy. This publication illustrates the pattern that was established and repeated in concessionary bargaining until our Companies emerged from bankruptcy and merged.
Here is a thumbnail. Northwest was seeking cost savings and the savings were negotiated and allocated as follows:
I see where you are coming from. Judges have broad authority and talk tough when trying to compel parties to reach an agreement. Judges also get overturned on appeal. ALPA's history at the Courthouse is unfortunately abysmal ... a symptom of lawyers who practice politics more than law. I am in no position to gauge how serious our Reps felt the threat was.
We agree that an agreement was reached by mutual consent. That is the factual history. The results speak for themselves and what gets stated at a public hearing and what happens behind closed doors are entirely different. Depositions, past practice and ALPA publications descriptive of the process used during concessionary bargaining seem clear to me.
PM sent with regard to the Delta negotiations. No need for collateral damage over something that happened years ago... and to my F-NWA friends, my apologies for airing your dirty laundry while keeping mine tucked away.
Here is a thumbnail. Northwest was seeking cost savings and the savings were negotiated and allocated as follows:
- Pay Reductions $161 million
- Sick leave $3.8 million
- Medical / Dental Insurance co pays $9.2 million
- Allowing the company to roll down balance sheet charges on pension funding (not a pension change an accounting change) $72 million
- Scope - $15 million ... in this paragraph the Northwest MEC takes credit for being the first to receive dollar credits for such a provision.
As far as a judge invalidating scope its never really been a issue so of course no judge has ruled on it. If you go back and read the court transcripts if they are still available you will see the judge seemed to have no question in his mind it was within his authority.
We agree that an agreement was reached by mutual consent. That is the factual history. The results speak for themselves and what gets stated at a public hearing and what happens behind closed doors are entirely different. Depositions, past practice and ALPA publications descriptive of the process used during concessionary bargaining seem clear to me.
PM sent with regard to the Delta negotiations. No need for collateral damage over something that happened years ago... and to my F-NWA friends, my apologies for airing your dirty laundry while keeping mine tucked away.
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Let me correct this for you sailing.
There are however pilots on here who can't post a single good thing about DALPA/ALPA.
By the way, why is it that sailing and slow and scambo and the other ALPA insiders always disappear whenever the words "Flight Pay Loss released to constituents in written format" are mentioned.
There are however pilots on here who can't post a single good thing about DALPA/ALPA.
By the way, why is it that sailing and slow and scambo and the other ALPA insiders always disappear whenever the words "Flight Pay Loss released to constituents in written format" are mentioned.
Prost my lads!
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Maverick the later years. ICEMAN - The Later Years from NiNo
There I was...sitting Bravo alert in Frankfurt, Germany. I'd been to Sachsenhausen the night before so I'd filled my quotient of beers and brats, and the obligatory Doner Kabab at midnight. Standing by in the hotel at Rhein Main waiting for my phone to ring and to spring to answer democracy's call and leap my C-141 into the skies...and then I met FTB and 80. Seems my past life was, now, not so full...I have met my match and I am teamed with fellow warriors at least as able as I. Ahh, but the elders shall instruct their young...nay, nay, the young shall teach their elders.
Prost my lads!
Prost my lads!
Hey Buzz, you ever think about writing a book?
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