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Awesome.
Awesome pic satch.
The greatest punishment Al from Dadeville could receive is sitting in a slammer with the Fed's (FBI and EPA evidently) all over him while being ridiculed and spurned by Nick Saban and Gene Stallings (if he's sober) and watching the two schools rally around what's good in this rivalry like the back-to-back undefeated, Heisman and National Champion seasons.
That'd be good because sadly this not only taints Bama but it taints the rivalry, the state and therein Auburn. Alabama's Coach Mike Dubose was right to say he didn't like the Iron Bowl, it created a fish bowl environment and it was too crazy - maybe he meant crazies, maybe he met Al? But everyone knows better and with a fan base as large as Bama's there will be lunatics that never set foot on campus.
Awesome pic satch.

The greatest punishment Al from Dadeville could receive is sitting in a slammer with the Fed's (FBI and EPA evidently) all over him while being ridiculed and spurned by Nick Saban and Gene Stallings (if he's sober) and watching the two schools rally around what's good in this rivalry like the back-to-back undefeated, Heisman and National Champion seasons.
That'd be good because sadly this not only taints Bama but it taints the rivalry, the state and therein Auburn. Alabama's Coach Mike Dubose was right to say he didn't like the Iron Bowl, it created a fish bowl environment and it was too crazy - maybe he meant crazies, maybe he met Al? But everyone knows better and with a fan base as large as Bama's there will be lunatics that never set foot on campus.
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Here's the scenario. I swapped two 1 day trips (20th and 22nd) for a 3 day (20th to 22nd). The 3 day gets cancelled. I get a call (DOH! Answered the phone on vacation.) for recovery flying. I get one of my one day trip that I dropped on the 22nd for recovery flying. Am I now free and clear for any more recovery flying or do I still need to answer the phone?
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Scenario:
Given - No JS available.
Pilot has a 1000 sign in out of ATL. Puts himself down for a non-rev seat on a DL mainline flight that departs at 0730 and arrives at 0830 in ATL. The night before the flight shows open seats, but when boarding starts it shows oversold and he isn't able to get on the flight.
So he goes to his back up flight which is scheduled for a 0830 departure and 0930 arrival into ATL. This flight showed plenty of seats available the night prior. He talks to the gate agent and the gate agent confirms there should be plenty of seats remaining (for this example let's say 20) and the pilot should be able to get one of those.
According to the policy the pilot supposed to call crew scheduling now and get PS.
The memo says this should be a rare occasion ("Rare is defined as a few times during a pilot’s career."), but the mandate to call if you miss the primary flight (even if the back up flight has plenty of seats available) appears that it may not be as rare as one would think. I've had to commute on my back up flight on more than one occasion.
Additionally, I don't see any mention of a requirement that there actually be open seats 24 hours prior to the flight. If that requirement doesn't exist can you safely assume that it could be used against you when speaking to someone with company? e.g. "Well, what did you expect, you saw there weren't any seats available on your primary flight the night before. You should have come in the night before." <--what I normally do if I don't see seats on my primary flight, BTW.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about the new policy; I like the fact that I have assurance I can get PS on the back up flight if it's required. That's much better than sweating it out and wondering if you're going to make it or not. But it seems the sweat factor now is going to be "Do I call and get PS or do I take a chance and see if I get a seat since there appear to be plenty available--I don't want to get on the bad boy list as I called for PS in situation like this about 18 months ago."
Given - No JS available.
Pilot has a 1000 sign in out of ATL. Puts himself down for a non-rev seat on a DL mainline flight that departs at 0730 and arrives at 0830 in ATL. The night before the flight shows open seats, but when boarding starts it shows oversold and he isn't able to get on the flight.
So he goes to his back up flight which is scheduled for a 0830 departure and 0930 arrival into ATL. This flight showed plenty of seats available the night prior. He talks to the gate agent and the gate agent confirms there should be plenty of seats remaining (for this example let's say 20) and the pilot should be able to get one of those.
According to the policy the pilot supposed to call crew scheduling now and get PS.
The memo says this should be a rare occasion ("Rare is defined as a few times during a pilot’s career."), but the mandate to call if you miss the primary flight (even if the back up flight has plenty of seats available) appears that it may not be as rare as one would think. I've had to commute on my back up flight on more than one occasion.
Additionally, I don't see any mention of a requirement that there actually be open seats 24 hours prior to the flight. If that requirement doesn't exist can you safely assume that it could be used against you when speaking to someone with company? e.g. "Well, what did you expect, you saw there weren't any seats available on your primary flight the night before. You should have come in the night before." <--what I normally do if I don't see seats on my primary flight, BTW.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about the new policy; I like the fact that I have assurance I can get PS on the back up flight if it's required. That's much better than sweating it out and wondering if you're going to make it or not. But it seems the sweat factor now is going to be "Do I call and get PS or do I take a chance and see if I get a seat since there appear to be plenty available--I don't want to get on the bad boy list as I called for PS in situation like this about 18 months ago."
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If you start using it when you don't need it, it will be a red flag for continuing the policy.
The caveat is if the gate agent is wrong, or another flight cancels and they send a boatload of HKs to your backup flight.
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"For many, commuting is a personal lifestyle choice, but the anxiety level can still be significant. "
I'm going to have to ask JG why he felt like he had to include this sentence. Read the paragraph without it. It makes perfect sense and changes the entire tenor of the message. That sentence contributes nothing to the message. All it does is make him look either ignorant of, or unconcerned about the great numbers of pilots that have been forced to make the difficult decision to either pack up and move, bid down to lower paying equipment, or start commuting.
It's a good policy, but the message was delivered poorly.
I'm going to have to ask JG why he felt like he had to include this sentence. Read the paragraph without it. It makes perfect sense and changes the entire tenor of the message. That sentence contributes nothing to the message. All it does is make him look either ignorant of, or unconcerned about the great numbers of pilots that have been forced to make the difficult decision to either pack up and move, bid down to lower paying equipment, or start commuting.
It's a good policy, but the message was delivered poorly.
While he has his issues, I respect Steve Dickson, our current Senior VP of Flight Ops (or is it Executive VP? I don't know). He is an improvement over his predecessor, Joe Kolshak (who is now at UAL).
We used to call him "inaugural Joe" because every time we might pick up a new airplane at Boeing, Joe would add on his code-a-phone "I had the privilege of flying a new airplane from Boeing last week" blah blah.
So a couple of years ago we get our first 777LR (capable of nonstop JNB-ATL among other things, a first for the 777 at DAL) and instead of SD picking up the plane himself, he had two very worthy pilots do so--I'll leave the names out. He even made a special code-a-phone, which was great! It was great all the way until the last line which went something like: "and amazingly, in 50+ years of combined DAL flying, neither pilot has ever called in sick once!"
What was the point of that (subtle "and you shouldn't ever call in sick either")? JG's little "commuting is a lifestyle choice for many" reminds me of the same...and I don't even commute!
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Now back to our normal gripe session...
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