Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 740384)

Des,

With NWAf16dude, Cogf16 and I think we have a quorum! Tightonka it is:cool:

Hey, I'm try'en to get out to SGN before it goes away.........any intel;)

Ferd

Originally Posted by Razor (Post 740388)

Delta, the world's largest carrier, reported Thursday that traffic levels were down 7.5% amid an 8% drop in capacity. The percentage of seats filled at Delta rose 0.4 percentage point in December to 81.2%.

In the U.S., traffic fell 6.3%, as capacity contracted 4% and as so-called load factor fell 2 percentage points to 80.2%. International traffic fell 9.3% amid a deeper 14% drop in capacity, allowing load factor to increase 4.2 points to 82.9%.

Delta shares were up 5% at $12.72 in recent trading amid a rally for airline stocks, which were reacting in part to a pause to crude oil's recent gains.

Originally Posted by satchip (Post 740223)

ALABAMA NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!! GOT 13?

Let me first say that Texas played a heck of a game. That freshman qb is going to be something. The way he gathered himself in the second half to bring them back is just amazing. That defense was also stellar for Texas. If not for Bama's end of the half interception return this could be a different story. Congrats to Super and all the UT fans (among whom I live) for a great season.

ROLL DAMN TIDE!!!!

Originally Posted by Desperado (Post 740387)

My own callsign....snif

I'm so happy:D


TIGHTONKA

Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 740396)

Argggggg and to the bar boys in honor of Tightonka!!:D Whiskey for my horses, water for my friends.

Originally Posted by Razor (Post 740388)

Not good numbers coming out about Delta's performance. The stock price is nice however.


Delta Air Lines Inc.'s (DAL) passenger traffic continued to weaken in December as the carrier's underperformance relative to peers continued.

Many U.S. airlines have cut capacity to cope with a decline in both business and leisure travel. A handful of U.S. airlines, including low-cost carrier AirTran Airways, a unit of Air Tran Holdings Inc. (AAI), and Continental Airlines Inc. (CAL) reported this week that their traffic rose in December from a year earlier, as they continued to claw back from last summer's nadir, when many were reporting double-digit-percentage declines.

But not everyone landed in positive territory, with AMR Corp.'s (AMR) American Airlines and US Airways Group Inc. (LCC) also reporting that traffic fell.

Delta, the world's largest carrier, reported Thursday that traffic levels were down 7.5% amid an 8% drop in capacity. Just over a year ago, Delta completed its acquisition of Northwest Airlines. The percentage of seats filled at Delta rose 0.4 percentage point in December to 81.2%.

In the U.S., traffic fell 6.3%, as capacity contracted 4% and as so-called load factor fell 2 percentage points to 80.2%. International traffic fell 9.3% amid a deeper 14% drop in capacity, allowing load factor to increase 4.2 points to 82.9%.

Delta shares were up 5% at $12.72 in recent trading amid a rally for airline stocks, which were reacting in part to a pause to crude oil's recent gains.


-By Tess Stynes, Dow Jones Newswires


Delta, Comair on-time rates soar
Business Courier of Cincinnati

Delta Air Lines and its Comair subsidiary greatly improved their on-time rates in November – but so did most other airlines, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Air Travel Consumer Report.

The major carriers overall reported an average on-time rate of 88.6 percent in November, the highest since the DOT began compiling statistics in 1995.

Delta posted a December on-time rate of 87.4 percent, up from 79.4 percent in October, but its ranking among the 19 major airlines fell to 13th from sixth. Comair improved its rate to 86.2 percent from 75.1 percent, and dropped one notch in the ranking, to 16th.

The Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport had a November on-time arrival rate of 91 percent and an on-time departure rate of 89.1 percent. That compares with an on-time arrival rate of 84.4 percent, and an on-time departure rate of 86.4 percent.

Delta boosted its performance in the mishandled baggage category, to 3.51 reports per 1,000 passengers, versus 4.4 reports in October, but fell to 15th from 14th in the ranking. Comair fell to 17th from 16th, with 3.82 reports per 1,000 passengers, compared to 5.08 the month before.

Delta retained its last-place ranking for consumer complaints, with 1.79 per 100,000 enplanements, up from 1.7 in October. Comair moved up to sixth place from 14th, with 0.42 complaints per 100,000 enplanements, compared to 0.92 the previous month.

Atlanta-based Delta (NYSE: DAL) operates a hub at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. Comair is based in Erlanger.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 739783)

But fwiw, that Alaska-DAL agreement is a big sore spot for our west coast pilots. Many see it as a reason for displacements out of LAX with no pending growth.

Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 740084)

So an AS pilot who has a 737 life ahead of him should have access to all the WB's at Delta? Are you crazy? And I believe career expectations have been a basic tenet of SLI's for years, and especially now!

Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 740150)

+1...I totally agree!! I am not biased toward AS what so ever, but I along with EVERYONE at DAL have expectations. Allowing someone from a merged/acquired airline to slow my or any DAL pilot expectations is wrong.

Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 740429)

... . YOU would have gratefully come to Alaska to get out of your RJ. So give us a break.

Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 740429)

And the "I only applied to DAL to fly international widebodies" is a bunch of hooey and we all know it. If DAL hadn't been hiring at the time YOU would have gratefully come to Alaska to get out of your RJ. So give us a break.

Originally Posted by Desperado (Post 740387)

My own callsign....snif

I'm so happy:D


TIGHTONKA

Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 740451)

E1Out,

How many Dal south guys were bumped out of a WB seat by Dal north pilots on your last bid? Was the migration to ATL as bad as some projected? I'm just curious how things turned out.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 740437)

Yes, Alaska actually brings good stuff to the table relative to its size. The problem for an Alaska merger is that it comes after the NWA merger, fleet rationalization and displacements which are proving painful.

Not that you have to be understanding, but do understand that the pain of the NWA merger is just starting to be felt and some are going to spout off at you because they feel they got screwed two years ago. Make any sense? No, not really. But that is how it is.

Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 740451)

E1Out,

How many Dal south guys were bumped out of a WB seat by Dal north pilots on your last bid? Was the migration to ATL as bad as some projected? I'm just curious how things turned out.

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 740466)

Imagine where you would have been without $2 billion in Amex cash, $700 million in synergies (half of which was duplicate management elimination), route and currency diversification, and an increased revenue premium to the industry (though still not where it should be vis a vis our competitors). You think you would have survived without "pain" as a new hire at a standalone Delta or NWA with a 45% drop in revenue during the summer of 2009?

Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 740429)

And that is an entirely reasonable concern. Because what is a code-share but just another outsourcing of flying? But, when you hear these guys talk:

...is it any wonder why the average Alaska pilot has ZERO desire to become the redheaded stepchild of the DAL seniority list? If there is a merger, we all become part of the same team and discriminating against a group of your team only engenders conflict. Ask some of your Delta North brothers how the red book/green book stuff worked out.

And the "I only applied to DAL to fly international widebodies" is a bunch of hooey and we all know it. If DAL hadn't been hiring at the time YOU would have gratefully come to Alaska to get out of your RJ. So give us a break.

Originally Posted by Model Citezen (Post 740478)

Slo,
I believe we went from a 30 Billion dollar company to 24 billion during 2009..... that about a 20% drop in revenue (not 45%). The Amex deal is to provide 2 Billion over the course of the contract. We got a check for 1 Billion at the start of 2009. We should have another 500 million this year and 500 million next year. Although we might have experienced a "short term" 45% downturn, the worst financial numbers I have read about show a 25% drop over the summer quarter and we are ending the year off just about 20% for 2009. I am not picking on you, just want to make sure facts and figures don't start becoming urban legends.

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 740471)

If you're looking at pure north/south moves (meaning base AND equipment, not SLC M88 to MSP M88 or MSP 320 to SLC 320), then there were 228 South pilots that moved to North bases and equipment and 227 North pilots that moved to South bases and equipment. There will be a slight change to these numbers when the bid error for frozen categories is finally corrected (approximately 20 guys, with about 60 trickle downs), but it shouldn't change the ratio substantially.

The seniority list worked as a seniority list should.

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 740466)

I personally am tired of the whining. I'm tired of the entitlement mentality. I'm tired of the ignorance and revision of history. Not that you have to be understanding of my fatigue, but I challenge some here to look in the mirror and see if they see a reflection of reality. "I got screwed..."
Yeah, right...:mad: Your butt got saved, and that's both premerger groups.

Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 740451)

E1Out,

How many Dal south guys were bumped out of a WB seat by Dal north pilots on your last bid? Was the migration to ATL as bad as some projected? I'm just curious how things turned out.

Originally Posted by NERD (Post 740302)

New,

I have always enjoyed your posts and now that I know who you are even more. As always it was good talking to you the other day. Happy new year and congrats again on your latest accomplishment.

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 739630)

The answer is in Section 1 of the PWA. Once a number is established it doesn't have to be reduced unless they furlough Delta pilots.

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 739630)

No, they can't reduce our flying to zero unless they don't furlough and continue to pay us. That would be a nice paid vacation...:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 739630)

Your comment about RJ's remaining constant is bogus as well. Just prior to the merger the combined NWA Airlink/DCI fleet was over 800 aircraft. It is at 680 now, with 50 more aircraft to be reduced this year. Even with the DC-9's leaving the fleet, the Connections are parking at over 3 times the rate. DCI block hours are shrinking in comparison to mainline as well.

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 739630)

Did you not get your morning glimpse of Kiffin's wife? (all things UT to you:p)

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 740037)

You ready?

BTW, there is a sizeable number in this audience tonight and on this forums who will be noting the differences between Texas and Alabama girls on the sidelines. Good luck to the both of you, we'll see who the camera likes.

Originally Posted by Model Citezen (Post 740478)

Slo,
I believe we went from a 30 Billion dollar company to 24 billion during 2009..... that about a 20% drop in revenue (not 45%). The Amex deal is to provide 2 Billion over the course of the contract. We got a check for 1 Billion at the start of 2009. We should have another 500 million this year and 500 million next year. Although we might have experienced a "short term" 45% downturn, the worst financial numbers I have read about show a 25% drop over the summer quarter and we are ending the year off just about 20% for 2009. I am not picking on you, just want to make sure facts and figures don't start becoming urban legends.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 740052)

You'll always find yourself cheering for your rival.

.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 740108)

WYou think DAL will let me coach UT part time? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 740492)

I agree 100%. Both companies would have done a great deal of pull down by now if we hadn't merged, resulting in guys on the street. This whole thing has been hard, but as I've said before, guys who are whining are guys without anything to do. ....

Slow, the bad news......it took a strike to tamp down all the red/green moaning. Good look to us all.

Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 740451)

E1Out,

How many Dal south guys were bumped out of a WB seat by Dal north pilots on your last bid? Was the migration to ATL as bad as some projected? I'm just curious how things turned out.

Originally Posted by 10000 (Post 740562)

Ferd
I think you need to bid either PTN# 6095 on the 17th or #6092 on the 16th. Both our double SGN's with either two 50+hr layovers and a SPN turn or a double SGN with a 50+ and a 28+hr layover with two SPN turns. Either way only 6 or 8 legs in 12 days. Plus you keep your room in NRT for 3 or 4 days while doing the SPN turns.

Of course you would have to give up your SPN Tour Guide duties to become a SGN guide. I am hoping you would not miss BF in his Speedo poolside in SPN.

Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 740563)

Listen, I know what you guys are all saying. My point is that Alaska pilots are perfectly happy to haul Delta customers in our system. We'd rather not be assimilated, thank you very much.

Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 740563)

Listen, I know what you guys are all saying. My point is that Alaska pilots are perfectly happy to haul Delta customers in our system. We'd rather not be assimilated, thank you very much.

Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 740563)

Listen, I know what you guys are all saying. My point is that Alaska pilots are perfectly happy to haul Delta customers in our system. We'd rather not be assimilated, thank you very much.