Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-08-2011 | 11:09 AM
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04-08-2011 | 11:11 AM
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Thats what Im thinking too. You would think that if this ruling gave DALPA the ability to challenge RAH it would be good for other regional ALPA carriers. If RAH isn't allowed to do the flying then it could be transferred over to other ALPA regionals. While this doesn't bring the flying back to DAL it does stop the multilevel scope end arounds that RAH is playing and sets a precedent while potentially helping out your other union members.
The scary thought is that ALPA doesnt want to open Pandoras box here because they want the ability to grow other ALPA regionals in the same manner that RAH has and feel that the short term transfer of flying is small potatoes to the growth one might see by getting bigger jets with scope end arounds at these super regionals.
The scary thought is that ALPA doesnt want to open Pandoras box here because they want the ability to grow other ALPA regionals in the same manner that RAH has and feel that the short term transfer of flying is small potatoes to the growth one might see by getting bigger jets with scope end arounds at these super regionals.
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04-08-2011 | 11:19 AM
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AND WHY IN THE HELL DO WE NOT WANT TO TRY? WHY?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH DALPA SAYING "THIS IS GOOD NEWS, WE'RE GOING TO STOP THIS MULTI-CERTIFICATE SCAM NOW."
Instead "well, you don't know what you're talking about because you're just a pilot and if we know anything as a pilot's union is that pilots don't know anything. So status quo and don't question our lawyers."
Funny, there is always 2 lawyers in a case, one for and against the same thing so you can't question any lawyer?
But Skywest there is your green light, go for it. We'll pay for your Airbuses. ALPA won't grieve it if you consider voting them in too.
Maybe the Teamsters would like 12,000 mainline pilots? I'm all for anything at this point. Imagine if the 2000+ pilots who signed those DPA cards, probably few signing them because they're in love with the DPA, invited another established union? Could we finally get ALPA to do it's job correctly which includes not pushing back against the pilots?
Instead "well, you don't know what you're talking about because you're just a pilot and if we know anything as a pilot's union is that pilots don't know anything. So status quo and don't question our lawyers."
Funny, there is always 2 lawyers in a case, one for and against the same thing so you can't question any lawyer?
But Skywest there is your green light, go for it. We'll pay for your Airbuses. ALPA won't grieve it if you consider voting them in too.
Maybe the Teamsters would like 12,000 mainline pilots? I'm all for anything at this point. Imagine if the 2000+ pilots who signed those DPA cards, probably few signing them because they're in love with the DPA, invited another established union? Could we finally get ALPA to do it's job correctly which includes not pushing back against the pilots?
There was a ruling made yesterday, not even 24 hours ago. That may change the legal situation and it may not.
The situation will be analyzed by real lawyers and not fake internet lawyers.
Before spending a million dollars of dues money, sufficient research will be done to ensure we have a case.
If we have a case, then we will file a grievance.
Is that simple enough for you? I have said multiple times that a grievance will be filed if there is a violation, and then you pretend like I said "we will not file a grievance." The only difference in our positions, is that I want a real lawyer to analyze the situation and not an internet blowhard, no matter how smart he thinks he is.
I fell like I am arguing with my girls back when they are teenagers. Cripes.
04-08-2011 | 11:23 AM
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Anyone try signing up for the Delta MEC Pilot Blast to receive text messages, like when the bid window is open among other things? I tried but never got a text for the authorization code.
04-08-2011 | 11:23 AM
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does anyone know if our mec has made any official comments about this?
04-08-2011 | 11:25 AM
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And I want a real lawyer I can trust to analyze the situation. A lawyer that doesn't represent an umbrella organization that has competing priorities with mine. I also want this analysis to be a high priority item and to be completed ASAP.
04-08-2011 | 11:26 AM
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04-08-2011 | 11:27 AM
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04-08-2011 | 11:28 AM
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04-08-2011 | 11:31 AM
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Well, we have filed many grievances and won most of them. Our total collection for the three years leading up to the merger was close to $30 million, including $10 million for the staffing grievance. Remember the big controversy over the 76 GRIEVANCE settlement, it started with a GRIEVANCE. We spent over $1 million on the no furlough clause grievance after 9/11 where we lost and then won a recall after we went back to the arbitrator again and then grieved the second furlough and won.
Most complaints that get filed get full pay within a week or two of their first call as opposed to waiting a year for a grievance to be filed.
So instead of acting like a little girl, maybe some people should stop acting like a forgetful old man. Do we have to remind you every month about the actions taken?
To summarize, we file a grievance when the actual legal contract has been violated, not when some forum lawyer decides he is now a legal professional. Got it?
Most complaints that get filed get full pay within a week or two of their first call as opposed to waiting a year for a grievance to be filed.
So instead of acting like a little girl, maybe some people should stop acting like a forgetful old man. Do we have to remind you every month about the actions taken?
To summarize, we file a grievance when the actual legal contract has been violated, not when some forum lawyer decides he is now a legal professional. Got it?
Having hundreds of grievances is not a badge of honor, but perhaps a sign of a flawed approach. At the other end of the spectrum, a union that would have zero outstanding grievances is suspect as well. I don't know what our count is, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that there are at least a few things that we don't agree with the company on.
It is quite possible I'm missing something with respect to the Republic situation. In fact I don't really know the legal ramifications. What you're failing to account for, however, is that mine is a legitimate concern. I think the MEC would be wise to address it, rather than to try to minimize the intellect and legal acumen of people on the forum.
There gets to be a point where it doesn't really matter if the legal case is a slam-dunk or not. If the generals are perceived to lack coverage, and the big guns are never brought to bear, and their sound is never heard, then the enemy is no longer deterred, and the desillusioned troups will no longer be rallied. It's more of a leadership problem than a legal issue.
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