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Old 04-17-2011, 03:24 AM
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How do you schedule a deviated dead head? Is it done via ecrew/icrew? If so, where in there?
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:12 AM
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How do you schedule a deviated dead head? Is it done via ecrew/icrew? If so, where in there?
When you get to the main icrew page it's the blue box at the bottom right that says jumpseat/deadhead. It's the box next to the one that says "swap with friends" and has a picture of a 10 year old girl which is to the right of the box that says "setup friends" and shows a couple's wedding picture.

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Old 04-17-2011, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WidgetDriver
We are not a single seniority list because WE argued that Delta, ASA, and CMR were not a single airline or a single transportation system. ASA and CMR argued that we were. That is where our argument with RAH could get us in trouble according to this individual.

I don't have access to it, but apparantly DALPA made some arguments in front of ALPA national years ago stating that ASA, CMR, and DAL were not a single carrier, or single airline. It seems if we make the argument that CHQ and Shuttle are the same airline as Frontier, CMR could then come back and try it again.

I don't know, just what I was told.

I know we arent going to solve this on this message board, but you are talking about a hypothetical situation and I am talking about a black and white situation: The language in our section 1.
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:51 AM
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Maybe the jumpseat button would be easier to spot if it had the proper clip art such as for jumpseating:



Or deadheading:

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Old 04-17-2011, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Howgozit
Guys, do we get any discounts at Disney World? I can't find it on Delta Net. Thanks in advance...
There are some discounts under the Employee Perks tab on the DLNet.

If you have any ties to the Military there are a bunch of discounts right now.
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:12 AM
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Now I went back through the NMB Determinations from 1998 and I saw nothing related to Delta pilots except for a rather recent finding for representation of DAL/NWA pilots. So I can't see what DALPA argued.
There was never a case brought to the NMB. Comair was arguing for a "PID" which is an internal ALPA thing. The ALPA Executive Board are the ones who turned down the "Policy Initiation Date". (Comair and ASA wanted to invoke the ALPA Merger Policy. That's where "PID" comes from. They still would have had to get it by management even if ALPA had gone along. That's the point where the NMB would have gotten involved. Instead we got the RJDC lawsuit)
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Not sure we have a strong case given past precedent, but maybe there is something there, and I hope the MEC decides to pursue the case with maximum effort(along with the NWA trip rig grievance!).

We shall see.
I'd say if past DAL MEC precedent on fighting Scope erosion is an indicator of future performance I would agree we haven't much hope to fight the RAH case. Of course National/Moak have been silent on the issue that has much wider industry implications. The case needs to be made and fought that RAH is in fact a single carrier for operational certificate purposes. Not fighting this is being tacitly complicit in establishing the future precedent that this type of shell organization is a valid model for undercutting mainline flying.

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Old 04-17-2011, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
Not fighting this is being tacitly complicit in establishing the future precedent that this type of shell organization is a valid model for undercutting mainline flying.
I agree.

Skywest could buy Alaska, combine the seniority lists of not only Skywest and Alaska but with ASA, Expressjet and Horizon. As well as substantially integrate the operation and senior management and labor relations, pilot recruiting and then hold out to the public as a single entity "Skywest Holdings."

And then continue to fly on a guaranteed profit capacity purchase agreement with Delta to help provide the extra income to buffer against the losses suffered in their branded operation.

Then TransStates can purchase USAir east and play the same game with TransStates, Compass and UsAir.

And all of that would be okay if we don't remove RAH from DCI for being a STS.
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BTW, I appreciate being able to see the reserve availability list, but they need to publish the short call order. There is one.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Skywest could buy Alaska, combine the seniority lists of not only Skywest and Alaska but with ASA, Expressjet and Horizon. As well as substantially integrate the operation and senior management and labor relations, pilot recruiting and then hold out to the public as a single entity "Skywest Holdings."

And then continue to fly on a guaranteed profit capacity purchase agreement with Delta to help provide the extra income to buffer against the losses suffered in their branded operation.

Then TransStates can purchase USAir east and play the same game with TransStates, Compass and UsAir.

And all of that would be okay if we don't remove RAH from DCI for being a STS.
And then "Skywest Holdings/Alaska" could start codesharing with "SkyTeam" and pick up passengers from Air France/KLM and China Southern, etc. etc. Go right around those high cost DAL pilots.

You're right FTB. DALPA needs to stop this or it will only get worse.
I hope our reps will stand up on Tuesday.
The "establishment" is going to be all over them to let RAH slide and not start any fights.
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