I agree with your premise, this should've been done a long time ago. I've already got a problem with how this is being represented because to me it sounds like it's a setup to kick the can down the road then kick it into the gutter and run from it. That's my fear.

But in this specific case with RAH I don't see how I can have a prolonged nasty rant that I'm ready to do until they come back in May and say they're doing nothing. They can come back in May and say they can apply to the NMB to find RAH was STS and grieve a violation of section 1.

That means a few more weeks of pounding this home.

Remember this case was brought forth by the IBT, RAH's own union, not ALPA. And all they wanted was a finding of STS for representation, which to me, means they know the ramifications of finding STS. The last thing RAH's IBT would want is to go it alone with Frontier, they want that guaranteed profit. Which is the $@#%@# about all of this and if true, all the proof you need that we're funding our competiiton.

To me the NMB was more than willing to gave the IBT and ALPA everything they asked for.

That to me makes me believe the NMB will find STS for RAH in a blink of an eye - if asked. And they better be asked.

That's not right man. We DO have scope. Our problem is that we are affiliated with a national union that will not fund any attempt by us to defend our scope. How sick is that.

Carl

I agree with Carl.

And I'm about to set a record, most posts by me in a row that didn't have a picture. Except I snuck in a few on that satch vs ftb thread entitled SWA blah blah blah.

FTB;

I am a fan of not being rash. That said, you are still keeping your powder dry when you send it a card. Do not deny that you can read - and have read section 1. You have done your due diligence and your bargaining agent continues to kick the can down the road.

DALPA, Rome is burning. There is not enough koolaide left in ATL to put out the flame.

Hats off to ALPA for kicking the can down the road ... again. Yeah, we are blind.

For some reading in between the lines on the text about the RAH grievance in the MEC email... I don't think it's dead. We've known all along that the fact that RAH got declared an STS is not a violation of our section one, however it is the findings and the other intricacies that make it a violation... and a blatant one. On the surface though, it is not a violation and that email said a whole lot of nothing. Remember it's an email written by lawyers.

What can be pulled from this? There's more to come, and the entrenched types have got to be pushed (pushed out of the way if it becomes necessary) so they keep after it.



I'm looking forward to being able to bid the G550, personally. :D

Again, imho, IBT isn't stupid. They applied to the NMB to find RAH as STS for representation reasons only knowing if RAH declared STS they could be forced out of CPA's and be truly on their own. They wouldn't be looking out for their pilots to give up guaranteed income from the likes of us that are supporting the Frontier operation.

The NMB found them to be STS for representation reasons but wrote in all of this precedence that screams that airlines have been declared STS for far less than what RAH is doing.

We need to go back and ask the NMB to declare STS and I think the NMB is not pitching a hanging curveball for us but rather put the ball on the T and told the team to take a knee. They seem to just be waiting to be asked.

Not so much as holding on to the card, but rather, I want the DPA to surge from 2000 to... 6001 in a quick amount of time the second ALPA says they're not pursuing this.

In politics they call it a money bomb, here you can have a card bomb.

As far as a shot across the bow, the DPA is that. As far as the DPA, still trying to figure that one out but there is another thread dedicated to just that and its not like sending the card in guarantees the DPA is in, the discussion will just be amplified. But like I said, if the IBT comes in, I'm not opposed.

I do not like ALPA National.

I talked to a guy who was former RAH, hired with 80 here, he was shocked the union wasn't filing a grievance. I don't think RAH guys believe they're separate airlines, they know all roads lead to the same place and it's blatant and obvious from the moment this system was created was to do an end around scope clauses.

It has to be stopped and if anyone pushes back then they should be pushed out.

Give me a plane with no FA. I've done the corporate FA thing... so give me a plane that has none.

Cut and pasted from Frontier's website in regards to their new non-stop service from MSP- MCI.

Flights are operated by Frontier Airlines, Republic Airlines, or Chautauqua Airlines. Fares and schedules are subject to change without notice. Other restrictions may apply.

Thats one of the things the NMB gave for the reason for finding RAH STS... for class or craff of pilot... but seriously, this thing is sitting on a T waiting to be hit...

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