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TheManager 06-29-2011 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1015699)
Raising per diem that much would not be a smart move. There is no real tax advantage once you reach the accepted deductions for transport workers for meal expenses. The IRS is quite wise to move pay into other areas to try and avoid taxes. You will be taxed on the excess per diem. What you wont get on that money is the 13 percent DC or the ability to contribute some of it to your 401k and fill your 415C limit. Some increase in per diem to the max allowed tax free would be good. That is probably not more then 50 cents an hour more then current. The rest should be in pay.


The minimum acceptable in C12K: If its good enough for for the FAA, then its appropriate for us.

Per Diem Rates for domestic.

U.S. Department of State | Welcome to Office of Allowances for international.

alfaromeo 06-29-2011 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1015625)
No...he's just being slowplay.

Carl

Holy cow. It took me 17 seconds to look up the data on this very web site. It says $210 but I think the true rate is $212. Are you all such helpless little children you can't do research on your own? No wait, Slowplay didn't spoon feed me information so it must not exist, or he must be trying to fool me. Gaak, what can I do if I am not handed information on a silver platter? I guess I just have to sit in the corner and cry like a baby. GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

scambo1 06-29-2011 07:40 PM

must be a slow week at dalpa

FlyingViking 06-29-2011 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1015708)
Holy cow. It took me 17 seconds to look up the data on this very web site. It says $210 but I think the true rate is $212. Are you all such helpless little children you can't do research on your own? No wait, Slowplay didn't spoon feed me information so it must not exist, or he must be trying to fool me. Gaak, what can I do if I am not handed information on a silver platter? I guess I just have to sit in the corner and cry like a baby. GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch the bloodpressure alfa.....

Nosmo King 06-29-2011 07:45 PM

If nothing changes in either contract and AirTran guys get
matched by 2013, every 12 yr captain at SWA will make less (per hour) than a 747 captain at DAL.

HOWEVER

The SWA Captains will make more (per hour)than all the DAL A330, 767-400, 767-300/200 captains.

I think it is fair to say that AirTran guys will be making more than DAL widebody Captains in 2013.

Straight hourly rates, not annual compensation:

DAL payrates eff 01/01/2011
SWA payrates eff 2011??


12yr DAL 747 Captain $217.07
12yr SWA 737 Captain $211.98
12yr DAL 330 Captain $205.04
12yr DAL 767 Captain $181.69
12yr DAL 737 Captain $175.13 (-900)
12yr DAL 737 Captain $174.23 (-800/700)
12yr DAL M88 Captain $161.23


More tidbits:
Reserve guarantee DAL 70 hours
Reserve guarantee SWA 79 hours

slowplay 06-29-2011 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1015708)
Holy cow. It took me 17 seconds to look up the data on this very web site. It says $210 but I think the true rate is $212. Are you all such helpless little children you can't do research on your own? No wait, Slowplay didn't spoon feed me information so it must not exist, or he must be trying to fool me. Gaak, what can I do if I am not handed information on a silver platter? I guess I just have to sit in the corner and cry like a baby. GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly. Carl asserts as fact that which is not. He gets called on it, and the guy that wrote a "kiss and tell" book complains that the detes are getting left out...:rolleyes:

For Buzzpat, the SWA rate is listed at $210 per hour on this site. Helpful? I want to make a lot more than that. You?

For the FlyingWhining...how about putting up on your assertion that reps are making twice what Captain's are making as you carry your donut talking points. Only problem is there's only donut holes in your story.:p
Hey, is TC enjoying his extra compensation from management? How many of his fellow pilots did he turn in for discipline today?

slowplay 06-29-2011 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 1015714)
Straight hourly rates, not annual compensation:

DAL payrates eff 01/01/2011
SWA payrates eff 2011??


12yr DAL 747 Captain $217.07
12yr SWA 737 Captain $211.98
12yr DAL 330 Captain $205.04
12yr DAL 767 Captain $181.69
12yr DAL 737 Captain $175.13 (-900)
12yr DAL 737 Captain $174.23 (-800/700)
12yr DAL M88 Captain $161.23


More tidbits:
Reserve guarantee DAL 70 hours
Reserve guarantee SWA 79 hours

I note that you left out of your tidbits that when on reserve SWA stands 15 shortcalls of 15 hours per month, with a 2 hour callout window. I believe their guarantee is 78 hours, but I'll have to double check. Are you leaving out some of the detes?:D

Eck4Life 06-29-2011 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 1015706)
There is a reason that Scope is Section 1 in the PWA.

Compensation is Section 3.

Been that way for awhile.

+1. Your payrate can be $1000 per hour, but if there aren't any airplanes it is worthless. Scope is paramount.

And for all the senior guys that think a scope relaxation will not affect them, you are mistaken. If we allow them more 76 seaters or larger airframes in exchange for higher payrates, you can kiss the majority of the narrowbodys at mainline goodbye. Your mid to lower seniority widebody left seat will magically turn into one on the opposite side of the cockpit. The turd WILL roll uphill.

FlyingViking 06-29-2011 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 1015666)
....Add in the fact that some of our reps are making twice of what some of our Captains are making ........


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1015717)
......For the FlyingWhining...how about putting up on your assertion that reps are making twice what Captain's are making as .......

You just never seem to get the details right, just twisted to your liking....:D

contrails 06-29-2011 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1015719)
I note that you left out of your tidbits that when on reserve SWA stands 15 shortcalls of 15 hours per month, with a 2 hour callout window. I believe their guarantee is 78 hours, but I'll have to double check. Are you leaving out some of the detes?:D

You seem to be leaving out the fact that:

- Reserves at SWA pretty much fly every day and don't sit around on 2hr callout

- That leaves: SWA reserve=15 days off


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