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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1015541)
Our NO votes are the single most important thing for us to all remember when it gets to crunch time about 18 months from now. It will be important, but extremely difficult for those who've never been through a Section 6 process before. At crunch time, our union reps will come out with scare tactics like you and your wives have never seen before. They will talk of things like "A NO vote will ruin everything", and "A NO vote will mean the end of the MEC and negotiating committee and we'll have to start over from ground zero after the new elections", and "A NO vote will show such division in our pilot group that management's next offer will be FAR WORSE than this one", etc., etc...
This will of course all be complete BS, but it WILL happen. When it does, be ready...and vote NO. Carl I concur with all the above. |
DAL a "strong buy" says analysts
Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) provides international and domestic passenger and cargo transportation in the U.S. and abroad. Six guru funds own $245 million, including seven funds adding a net $211 million during the quarter. This includes $155 million added by Capital Growth Management LP adding $155 million, Appaloosa adding $20 million, Balyasny Asset Management LLC adding $18 million, SAC Capital Advisors LP adding $11 million, Zweig-DiMenna Associates adding and $6 million. Thus, gurus taken as a group are bullish on DAL as it is among their largest positions in the group, and five funds added large positions in DAL while only two made insignificant minor cuts in DAL positions during the quarter. DAL trades at a forward P/E of 4-5, at the bottom of its historic P/E range. Analyst targets are in the mid- to high-teens, almost double current prices in the $9 range, and significantly below the low-teens where guru funds bought it in the last quarter. Furthermore, of the fourteen analysts covering the stock, ten rate it a buy/strong buy, two a hold, and two rate it at underperform/sell.
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C2K article
Check out this news article from April 2001, from the UAL/CAL thread:
Delta Reaches Tentative Deal With Pilots On a Contract - NYTimes.com Wow....you've got more authority than you know as a pilot group. :eek: |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1015529)
Correct, and correct.
But also remember that no matter what you put down on your survey, we'll be working under these BK/emergency rates until AT LEAST 2013...while AirTran pilots will be making more than our 744/777 Captains. Carl According to APC pay tables: AirTran 737 rate:$163 Delta 737 rate: $174 Delta 747 rate: $217 AirTran is being operated as a wholly owned subsidiary (Guadalupe holdings). I expect that they will eventually come under the SWA contract/pay rates, but there hasn't been a JCBA negotiated. The history of negotiating that document isn't very pretty for major/national airlines. AAA/AWA have been at it since 2005. UAL/CAL have been at it since May of 2010. The SWA/AAI integration has and will continue to sorely test the "culture" just like it has everywhere else. The threads on this board are proof of that. |
Wow the DTW Open Board for FO's looks like a Malarai billboard.
I think that is a preview of the ATL 330 open board. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1015542)
Carl
I have time, and I will not vote for something that I see as falling short. Oh and Carl, I am already preparing. I am restarting a business I ran about a decade ago, just to make sure I have the insurance I need. |
Originally Posted by LandGreen2
(Post 1015579)
ACL: when you get that business started...you got room for say...12000 employees for a few weeks?
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1015542)
Carl
I have time, and I will not vote for something that I see as falling short. Oh and Carl, I am already preparing. I am restarting a business I ran about a decade ago, just to make sure I have the insurance I need. Carl |
Originally Posted by Elvis90
(Post 1015558)
Check out this news article from April 2001, from the UAL/CAL thread:
Delta Reaches Tentative Deal With Pilots On a Contract - NYTimes.com Wow....you've got more authority than you know as a pilot group. :eek: The only difference is the behavior of the NMB then as opposed to today. What a stark difference and NOBODY is talking about it. Carl |
Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1015560)
Uh, not exactly.
According to APC pay tables: AirTran 737 rate:$163 Delta 737 rate: $174 Delta 747 rate: $217 AirTran is being operated as a wholly owned subsidiary (Guadalupe holdings). I expect that they will eventually come under the SWA contract/pay rates, but there hasn't been a JCBA negotiated. The history of negotiating that document isn't very pretty for major/national airlines. AAA/AWA have been at it since 2005. UAL/CAL have been at it since May of 2010. The SWA/AAI integration has and will continue to sorely test the "culture" just like it has everywhere else. The threads on this board are proof of that. Carl |
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