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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1044090)
I don't know, but I don't think so. When we got the 777-200LR we didn't get any rate modification from our 777 rate. One of the MD-90's we bought is an MD-90-30ER, and there's not a rate difference there either.
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
(Post 1043940)
What's the deal with the 5% stock drop for DAL today? I assume investors are reacting to the Boeing deal...I think it's a reasonable, conservative business decision. Most airline stocks are around 1% down today.
On Thursday August 25, 2011, 3:58 pm NEW YORK (AP) -- The threat of a hurricane shutting down air traffic at many of the U.S. East Coast's busiest airports sent airlines stocks sharply lower on Thursday. Airlines began to cancel flights and get planes out of harm's way as Hurricane Irene barreled toward North Carolina on a path that will also take it to New Jersey and New York and into New England. The storm is likely to cause the cancellation of hundreds of flights through this weekend at New York's JFK and LaGuardia, New Jersey's Newark Liberty International and other major airports in the East. The resulting delays could ripple across the country. Shares of Delta Air Lines Inc. fell 42 cents, or 5.8 percent, to $6.83. The airline's main hub is in Atlanta, but it has extensive operations in New York and Washington. JetBlue Airways Corp. is based at JFK; its shares dropped 7.4 percent to $3.97. Shares of AMR Corp., the parent of American Airlines, fell more than 3 percent while US Airways declined more than 4 percent. This system will cost us some money at the tail end of the Summer travel season....as for me, I'm just waiting for Crew Skeds to give me shortcall on Sunday and expect me to commute in to sit through a CAT II hurricane in my palatial Queens crashpad while the city's low lying areas are being evacuated. There will be absolutely no flying in or out of NYC that could be covered by reserves and I'm trying to think of the kindest way to tell them to pound sand in advance. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1044114)
Doesn't the formula we use include range and lift as factors? I would think if we get an aircraft that model that has greater range it should demand more pay. I'm honestly not flaming here. Just thinking out loud. I'm am somewhat amazed at the negativity we are seeing from a new aircraft order for mainline though.
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 1044121)
The PWA doesn't have a formula - it has a pay rate table. It's got a line for the 737-900. Now one might argue that Boeing makes a 737-900 and a 737-900ER, and we don't have a pay rate for the 737-900ER.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1044114)
Doesn't the formula we use include range and lift as factors? I would think if we get an aircraft that model that has greater range it should demand more pay. I'm honestly not flaming here. Just thinking out loud. I'm am somewhat amazed at the negativity we are seeing from a new aircraft order for mainline though.
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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1044127)
There isn't a formula anymore, just a negotiated rate. The rate is loosely based on potential productivty and efficiency of the airframe/category it is tied to.
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Remember, there's no money in cargo.....:confused:
Delta Cargo breaks record in Asia August 24, 2011 The Delta Cargo team in Asia broke the load record for the Boeing 757 last weekend by carrying more than 21,000 pounds of fresh tuna. The flight from Koror, Palau to Tokyo-Narita had 87 boxes full of fresh tuna, said Francis Lui, managing director-Delta Cargo, China and Asia. “This record cargo load was a great success for our team and provided important revenue to Delta’s bottom line,” Francis said. “I want to say thank you to both Sales and Operations for making this shipment possible. We take great pride in the cooperation of our Sales and Operations teams, their abilities to efficiently fill the belly of the plane and make the most out of the available capacity.” Delta Cargo is becoming known for setting records on passenger aircraft. On Christmas Day 2006, the group carried its largest shipment to date - 56,000 lbs. of asparagus from Lima, Peru to Atlanta. In 2005, Delta Cargo carried 20,000 lbs. of U.S. currency for the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank. The shipment of $225 million had to be unloaded by hand out of LD8 containers. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1044114)
I'm am somewhat amazed at the negativity we are seeing from a new aircraft order for mainline though.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1044114)
I'm am somewhat amazed at the negativity we are seeing from a new aircraft order for mainline though.
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1044131)
Me too Johnso...I'm personally really excited about it. I happen to love flying the 73-800 and -700 and am looking forward to the 900.
Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1044132)
I am as well, as my intemperent rant demonstrated!:o
I liked flying the 737-800 and really liked the -700, but the 757 is a much better airplane from the front end. However, it's main limfac is the single aisle. Now, if these are merely placeholders while we have some sly master plan to buy something else from Boeing, then I'll feel better.:D |
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