I'm not so sure, Here is the tally of the last 4 capt's i flew with (starting to keep track)

capt 1. 56 yrs old thinks scope is fine, and i quote "i think we took good care of our junior guys with our scope" :eek: he thinks its a junior issue.

capt 2. 60 yrs old very intrested in a pay raise and a large contibution to 401k (awesome!!). When i asked about section 1 he said "whats that?"(bogus)!! He thinks scope is fine as it is as well.

capt 3. 54 yrs old. Very angry that his retirement was stolen and said the company better bring a big bag of money to the table (YES!!!) when i asked about scope he gave me a speach i heard from the union years ago about how Rj's where saving us. (sigh:()

capt 4. 61 yrs old. Want's a short term contract and said 25% will do.(can't even comment on that one) Also, said we will have to give up more flying to get it (AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!)

Its been a bummer few trips. No spelling comments please typed fast on an HTC andriod

Thanks Newk! This is as close to the Joe Greene moment as I'll ever get!

NOW THROW ME THAT JERSEY!

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Yes. Not only is the guarantee much higher, but they get 15 days off a month I believe. 36 extra off days a year more than make up for the short call issue for the vast majority of reserve pilots because scheduling can very easily and strategically place those 6 SC's in such a way that its the equivalent of every day being SC except with 36 fewer days off.

Only those few categories that are perpetually fat staffed for reserves would "lose out" going to the SWA system, and then only the non commuters on those select few categories, and even they would get 36 fewer days off and 108 hours of pay guarantee less, just like everyone else. As for the international SC, if SC was unlimited by going to the SW system, they wouldn't need 24/hr SC, as everyone being 12hr SC would cover the operation better than only a few guys on the 24.

But either way you slice it, 36 extra days off and 108 extra hours (plus the 401k/B fund money for that) per year is the whipped cream and cherry on a milkshake that's way better than ours right now, even if you don't consider their significantly higher pay rates, which are in addition to all that, and we're not even looking at the 6.5 day rig. Yet.

I think we are close to the 255 but just under it at the moment. We could "order" a million mainline jets though, and the 255 limit doesn't flex upwards until the mainline fleet exceeds I think 767 and it is well below that. If the rumors are true about the 2 whales being parked and of course the 9's, even if you include the lesser number of MD90's being added, and the total fleet would have to grow by a fair ammount.

Not sure how the concept of parking a plane effects the numbers though. Fir example if we park 10 or 20 767's for our fall pull down, are they still "in the fleet" for the purpose of calculating the size of the outsource cancer? If not then there is no way anything they order will ever trigger the 3:1 above 255 number because we would never, even briefly, see anything like that here without another merger, in which case we will constructively engage to change the contract to allow the flex up in large RJ's anyway.

255 is a hard limit. The 3:1 is for allowable 76 seat jets. We need more than 767 mainline jets for that number to go above 153, which is the current number of 76 seat jets!!

Back in the days of yore, every reserve day at Delta was a short call day.
We had "call windows" twice a day when you had to answer the phone and be available to fly.

So what is the total mainline fleet number now and more importantly how is it calculated (WRT parked planes, etc).

Guys, PLEASE stop comparing us to SWA ! We are not a domestic low cost carrier, we are the second biggest airline in the world. Delta is known for being the best place a pilot could get hired. There is no way we should try to reach the same level as a domestic low cost carrier, we should be way above. Keep this up (and ALPA on board) and we will be screaming for Spirit wages by next contract. Wheter you like it or not, it is time for a serious attitude adjustment among our representation. Status quo ain't cutting it anymore !

Spoken by someone that drives to work.

Neither is SWA...