Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-26-2011, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
Ironic how much time and energy is spent by MEC operatives here and on the web boards managing expectations of 1/2 of 1% of the pilots 
04-26-2011, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Sir Carl, a tip of my hat to you for that one. Masterfully done. 
I know some reps are afraid to go into their lounges and afraid to get out in front of their pilots, but I never was. I get on these forums to speak to the lurkers because I know I never will change your mind and certainly not Carl's.
You are not the majority, I have the experience to back it up. Sorry, throw your hat in the ring and do the hard work, you will find the same thing.
04-26-2011, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Those are the ones going to SAS subsidiary Blue 1
They are taking a total of nine 717s to replace their MD90s going to Delta. Not much more than another niche operator of the type...
The DC-9 stays even with oil at record levels.
That further shows that the ultimate retirement of the DC-9 is more contingent on a replacement aircraft and is not affected by the price of fuel.
My reading on the previously announced accelerated DC-9 retirement is that was a negotiating ploy to strike a deal with a rival airline for a 120 seat replacement aircraft...it might now be the deal fell though.
(The deal was to trade Deltas undelivered 73-8 positions to the ATL rival, take 717s in trade and retire a commensurate number of DC-9s as 717s come online)
Cheers
George
They are taking a total of nine 717s to replace their MD90s going to Delta. Not much more than another niche operator of the type...
The DC-9 stays even with oil at record levels.
That further shows that the ultimate retirement of the DC-9 is more contingent on a replacement aircraft and is not affected by the price of fuel.
My reading on the previously announced accelerated DC-9 retirement is that was a negotiating ploy to strike a deal with a rival airline for a 120 seat replacement aircraft...it might now be the deal fell though.
(The deal was to trade Deltas undelivered 73-8 positions to the ATL rival, take 717s in trade and retire a commensurate number of DC-9s as 717s come online)
Cheers
George
04-26-2011, 04:28 PM
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So now that the DOJ has approved the Airtran-SWA merger, how long before we hear about the DL-US slot swap? How will that change the cpacity reductions announced?
04-26-2011, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
Ironic how much time and energy is spent by MEC operatives here and on the web boards managing expectations of 1/2 of 1% of the pilots
I could respect someone who came out in public and just resigned and went another direction. I just find it hard to respect someone who would secretly backstab the very organization he was pretending to lead. Don't you agree?
04-26-2011, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
Ironic how much time and energy is spent by MEC operatives here and on the web boards managing expectations of 1/2 of 1% of the pilots
Just thought this needed to be repeated in case someone missed the absolute truth of the observation the first time.
IMO they are just as welcome as the next poster and I value their perspective, but the veil is quite thin when they get in talking point spin mode.
04-26-2011, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
You know what I think is the worst use of energy. A person who supposedly represents an organization, someone who steps up to be a leader of an organization and then skulks around in the shadows trying to tear it down. Wouldn't that be a terrible use of energy?
I could respect someone who came out in public and just resigned and went another direction. I just find it hard to respect someone who would secretly backstab the very organization he was pretending to lead. Don't you agree?
I could respect someone who came out in public and just resigned and went another direction. I just find it hard to respect someone who would secretly backstab the very organization he was pretending to lead. Don't you agree?
Alfa;
Can you make that a little less cryptic for those of us who would like to elevate our SA.
04-26-2011, 05:09 PM
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Didn't seem that cryptic to me. Classic alfa.
04-26-2011, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Well - that's the fuzzy part. Richard just threw out those numbers, without any way of how Delta was going to get to them. It's possible that they might be cuts that were already annouced, or cuts for aircraft going to heavy MX or to get lie-flat seats (good time in my opinion). Also, it's possible that those are "20 equivalent aircraft" which just might mean less flying for the aircraft we have.
It's possible that some of those aircraft might migrate from the Atlantic to the Pacific, or to South America. Or even domestically - they said in the call that domestic was doing well. Those B757-200ERs are very good aircraft for trans-cons, with the Biz Elite seating.
I think those investor calls are all about "we're cutting capacity and raising yields" these days. The stock price is already up 10% today on the news.
Steve Dickson always says they staff for Block hours, not aircraft, so this may not change where pilots are sitting, etc.
It's possible that some of those aircraft might migrate from the Atlantic to the Pacific, or to South America. Or even domestically - they said in the call that domestic was doing well. Those B757-200ERs are very good aircraft for trans-cons, with the Biz Elite seating.
I think those investor calls are all about "we're cutting capacity and raising yields" these days. The stock price is already up 10% today on the news.
Steve Dickson always says they staff for Block hours, not aircraft, so this may not change where pilots are sitting, etc.
Furthermore, you do not spend all of the money to pull these suckers our of the desert to park em. That is unless there is a buyer for the 767-300G (GulfAir)
04-26-2011, 05:31 PM
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Scambo, I took it to mean that he too works for the pilots in an official capacity. I highly doubt that though.
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