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04-28-2011, 05:51 PM

#64731

boog123

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I'll put up another 100 to go along with that. No way the line is moving, and that is a FACT.

What about the number of jets allowed increasing, I'll take that bet. You and Pineapple in for either or?

04-28-2011, 05:51 PM

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alfaromeo

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I'll put up another 100 to go along with that. No way the line is moving, and that is a FACT.

I'll add another $1,000.

04-28-2011, 05:52 PM

#64733

FlyZ

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Can one of you airplane counter guys give us another update on how many more RJs can come onboard before the contractual limit is reached? I think its pretty obvious they are trying to hit that limit before contract time. Sometimes it's nice to look at the syringe and see how many cc's are left while you are being injected. From what I remember there is still a fair amount left. Thanks.

04-28-2011, 05:58 PM

#64734

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I'll put up another 100 to go along with that. No way the line is moving, and that is a FACT.

The line has already been moved to the A-380 or whatever other airplane RAH or some other shell holding company wants to use. These bets are meaningless guys, because the line is gone. By ALPA refusing to let DALPA grieve the RAH scope violation, our national union has erased the line. The ONLY question is whether DAL management decides to exercise what they can do because of ALPA's neglect.

Carl

04-28-2011, 06:03 PM

#64735

Pineapple Guy

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Carl, I have a question for you. Seriously. If a bunch of lawyers sat around on greedylawyer.com and critiqued how it was obvious to them that the pilot on their last leg was a screw up, and should have gone around because he flew through windshear (for example), but the captain, and co pilot, and LCA jumpseater all said it wasn't windshear, what would you say? And who would you believe? The lawyers sitting in the back with zero flying experience, or the three professional pilots on the flight deck?

These lawyers, with NO FLYING EXPERIENCE, were convinced the 3 pilots were wrong. Who you gonna believe?

Just curious.

04-28-2011, 06:05 PM

#64736

Xray678

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

You obviously have no clue how ALPA works. The MEC Chairman doesn't pick the MEC; they are elected by their individual councils.

you think the MEC Chairman doesn't hand pick candidates? You think he doesn't then put all his power behind getting them elected? Of the Reps in ATL, only one is an outsider. The rest are Moaks boys.

04-28-2011, 06:06 PM

#64737

hockeypilot44

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

Wow, I'm not sure I've ever seen a more insulting post.

You have just alleged that all pilots are too dumb to elect their own leaders to best represent their interests. Your fellow cockpit mates really appreciate your arrogance and disdain for their ability to think for themselves....

Anyone who voluntarily takes a pay concession while under contract is an idiot. Our pilot group as a whole has made terrible decisions over the past 8 years. These bad decisions were sold to us by ALPA and our officers. We are smart individually, but dumb as hell as a whole. We blindly rely on ALPA to lead us the right way, but ALPA leads us the way that it thinks will best benefit ALPA. Are you even a Delta pilot? I know you work for Delta, but I cannot tell who's side you're on. I think its been proven that we have elected the wrong leaders.

04-28-2011, 06:12 PM

#64738

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

That's easy Pineapple. I would believe what the FACTS say. I would look at the flight data recorder and the local airport's windshear monitoring data. That's what I would believe. Not ANYONE'S opinion. Not even the opinion of the pilots in the cockpit.

Now let's move to the question of ALPA's "expert" lawyers: Do those lawyers state FACTS, or do they state OPINIONS?

Second question: Do neutral arbitrators and judges state opinions, or do they issue RULINGS?

Last question: Why does ALPA not want to seek the ruling of a judge, and instead, hang their hats on OPINIONS?

Carl

04-28-2011, 06:14 PM

#64739

scambo1

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

An innocent man accused of murder hired a high priced lawyer to defend him. The lawyer did not provide him an adequate defense...which one went to jail?

04-28-2011, 06:15 PM

#64740

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by scambo1

An innocent man accused of murder hired a high priced lawyer to defend him. The lawyer did not provide him an adequate defense...which one went to jail?

Well played Sir. Tip 'o the hat to ya.

Carl