Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-29-2011, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by brakechatter
While not disagreeing with your submission,
-Previously announced DC-9s not retiring, but staying through 2012
-Additional 6 RJs
-SWA/AirTRan merger goes through without divesting any BWI or MCO
My guess is that we are about to get confirmation that the slot swap has gone through with LCC. Just a guess.
-Previously announced DC-9s not retiring, but staying through 2012
-Additional 6 RJs
-SWA/AirTRan merger goes through without divesting any BWI or MCO
My guess is that we are about to get confirmation that the slot swap has gone through with LCC. Just a guess.
04-29-2011, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
Not so fast my friend. You may be right, but never underestimate the thuggishness of this government. I'll believe it when I am checking in at the new terminal. Heck, I'm surprised WE didn't have to divest ourselves of gates and slots in ATL, JFK, SLC, DTW, MSP, et al to facilitate SWA/AT.
IMO, they've "thugged" it out as much as they are going to be able. That's the reason you are seeing the "new" RJs. Just a guess.
04-29-2011, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by brakechatter
IMO, they've "thugged" it out as much as they are going to be able. That's the reason you are seeing the "new" RJs. Just a guess.
Also reread Ronnie's comments, they speak the truth of a lot of this group, that the forum poster do not want to see.
I want to wager on how many slots LCC and DAL had to divest. I am guessing five in LGA and five in DCA. Anyone think that there are airplanes involved as well?
04-29-2011, 04:43 AM
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What the heck are these guys eating and drinking.
A recent visit to the DTW ALPA Council 20 office produced very interesting results. While the MEC failed to meet an eight week resolution mandate to produce all Flight Pay Loss reports for 2010 and 2011, it did make 2010 meeting expenses available for Delta Pilots to view. The MEC did not publish this report to its website, but harrassed its members in good standing by prohibiting photocopying or photographing the document. It forced members to hand transcribe the document if the member wished to export the information. When challenged by a DPA member for specific policy citation, ALPA leadership stated that no policy prohibitied the dissemination of the information, but that it was the preference of current ALPA leadership to restrict access and, therefore, limit transparency.
Read the DALPA Meeting Expense Report generated from two hours of hand transcribing to learn about the wasteful spending habits of the DALPA MEC. If $329.00 per night hotel rooms disturb you or 12 day meetings in beach destinations concern you, you are not alone. Over $1.6 MILLION in Delta Pilot dues was spent just in 2010 on meetings and associated comforts
A recent visit to the DTW ALPA Council 20 office produced very interesting results. While the MEC failed to meet an eight week resolution mandate to produce all Flight Pay Loss reports for 2010 and 2011, it did make 2010 meeting expenses available for Delta Pilots to view. The MEC did not publish this report to its website, but harrassed its members in good standing by prohibiting photocopying or photographing the document. It forced members to hand transcribe the document if the member wished to export the information. When challenged by a DPA member for specific policy citation, ALPA leadership stated that no policy prohibitied the dissemination of the information, but that it was the preference of current ALPA leadership to restrict access and, therefore, limit transparency.
Read the DALPA Meeting Expense Report generated from two hours of hand transcribing to learn about the wasteful spending habits of the DALPA MEC. If $329.00 per night hotel rooms disturb you or 12 day meetings in beach destinations concern you, you are not alone. Over $1.6 MILLION in Delta Pilot dues was spent just in 2010 on meetings and associated comforts
04-29-2011, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Take away points from the RJET announcement:
- NWA's MEC also defined that the E170/175 was to be operated property via their contract negotiations
- The Delta MEC divested Compass, reiterating this was not "Delta" flying
- The Delta MEC Chairman conceded additional aircraft while making road show presentations which touted the benefits of outsourcing
Anyone who thinks ALPA is going to pursue a grievance, or even object, just has not been paying attention.
Yeah, I told you so. My prognostication that the narrow body RFP will be effected by Delta's CapEx constraints stands. Again, I reiterate our MEC needs scope that focuses on PILOTS not airplanes. We need to define Delta flying inclusively and broadly. We need "Delta" pilots regardless of who's leases the airplanes.
- As I've previously explained, Delta's capital expenditure constraints are going to push the company to outsource more flying. Much as a Fraternity with no budget for a party throws a BYOB event, Delta wants capacity BYOJet. Even in the case of the NWA merger, Delta wanted airplanes it did not have to pay for.
- RJET's branded flying is not going well. Frontier's E Jet deliveries are being delayed, yet it still siphoned off airplanes for this new flying.
- ALPA's course of conduct has been absolutely clear:
- NWA's MEC also defined that the E170/175 was to be operated property via their contract negotiations
- The Delta MEC divested Compass, reiterating this was not "Delta" flying
- The Delta MEC Chairman conceded additional aircraft while making road show presentations which touted the benefits of outsourcing
Anyone who thinks ALPA is going to pursue a grievance, or even object, just has not been paying attention.
Yeah, I told you so. My prognostication that the narrow body RFP will be effected by Delta's CapEx constraints stands. Again, I reiterate our MEC needs scope that focuses on PILOTS not airplanes. We need to define Delta flying inclusively and broadly. We need "Delta" pilots regardless of who's leases the airplanes.
Bar;
I'm gonna lock you, FTB and Check in $329/night hotel rooms for a week. I'm gonna serve you filets, cracked crab, twinkies and fat tire. Your budget for IT and audiovisual is $10k. Your job is to produce an entertaining video detailing the entire scope bubble for posting on the DALPA website, emailing to DALPA members and posting to youtube. The requirement is to keep the video factual without being boring. There will be no flight pay loss.
04-29-2011, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
What the heck are these guys eating and drinking.
A recent visit to the DTW ALPA Council 20 office produced very interesting results. While the MEC failed to meet an eight week resolution mandate to produce all Flight Pay Loss reports for 2010 and 2011, it did make 2010 meeting expenses available for Delta Pilots to view. The MEC did not publish this report to its website, but harrassed its members in good standing by prohibiting photocopying or photographing the document. It forced members to hand transcribe the document if the member wished to export the information. When challenged by a DPA member for specific policy citation, ALPA leadership stated that no policy prohibitied the dissemination of the information, but that it was the preference of current ALPA leadership to restrict access and, therefore, limit transparency.
Read the DALPA Meeting Expense Report generated from two hours of hand transcribing to learn about the wasteful spending habits of the DALPA MEC. If $329.00 per night hotel rooms disturb you or 12 day meetings in beach destinations concern you, you are not alone. Over $1.6 MILLION in Delta Pilot dues was spent just in 2010 on meetings and associated comforts
A recent visit to the DTW ALPA Council 20 office produced very interesting results. While the MEC failed to meet an eight week resolution mandate to produce all Flight Pay Loss reports for 2010 and 2011, it did make 2010 meeting expenses available for Delta Pilots to view. The MEC did not publish this report to its website, but harrassed its members in good standing by prohibiting photocopying or photographing the document. It forced members to hand transcribe the document if the member wished to export the information. When challenged by a DPA member for specific policy citation, ALPA leadership stated that no policy prohibitied the dissemination of the information, but that it was the preference of current ALPA leadership to restrict access and, therefore, limit transparency.
Read the DALPA Meeting Expense Report generated from two hours of hand transcribing to learn about the wasteful spending habits of the DALPA MEC. If $329.00 per night hotel rooms disturb you or 12 day meetings in beach destinations concern you, you are not alone. Over $1.6 MILLION in Delta Pilot dues was spent just in 2010 on meetings and associated comforts
Force the issue on the Reps. Tell them to that you have an issue with it, and then tell them that you want results, whether they be personnel changes or otherwise.
04-29-2011, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Bar;
I'm gonna lock you, FTB and Check in $329/night hotel rooms for a week. I'm gonna serve you filets, cracked crab, twinkies and fat tire. Your budget for IT and audiovisual is $10k. Your job is to produce an entertaining video detailing the entire scope bubble for posting on the DALPA website, emailing to DALPA members and posting to youtube. The requirement is to keep the video factual without being boring. There will be no flight pay loss.
I'm gonna lock you, FTB and Check in $329/night hotel rooms for a week. I'm gonna serve you filets, cracked crab, twinkies and fat tire. Your budget for IT and audiovisual is $10k. Your job is to produce an entertaining video detailing the entire scope bubble for posting on the DALPA website, emailing to DALPA members and posting to youtube. The requirement is to keep the video factual without being boring. There will be no flight pay loss.
Maybe we can make it this good?
CLICK THE PICK IF YOU WANT TO GET DOWN ON FRIDAY!
04-29-2011, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
After reading the article, it does seem like we are subsidizing Frontier (Republic). They determined themselves that high gas prices weren't allowing their own E170s flying for Frontier to be profitable, so they threw them on the Delta side, to also not be profitable (for Delta). It's profitable for Republic, though, but not for their own brand. Break even with Delta, or lose money on their own. Very smart of Bedford. What does Lee Moak think about this?
Originally Posted by willzzz88
Can't believe you pilots haven't read this yet:
12 airport employees charged in 2 drug smuggling rings | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
Feds arrest Delta baggage handlers in drug smuggling probe at Metro Airport | detnews.com | The Detroit News
FT thread:
12 DL Rampers arrested with cocaine - FlyerTalk Forums
HOLY SH**.
You pilots: Better check the damn cargo hold for illegal sh** when coming from Mortego bay!
12 airport employees charged in 2 drug smuggling rings | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
Feds arrest Delta baggage handlers in drug smuggling probe at Metro Airport | detnews.com | The Detroit News
FT thread:
12 DL Rampers arrested with cocaine - FlyerTalk Forums
HOLY SH**.
You pilots: Better check the damn cargo hold for illegal sh** when coming from Mortego bay!
I think Montego Bay can set the record for the most ground workers ever on a single turn. 15 outside the airplane and I guarantee you at least 15 or more inside the aircraft. I had people in position at the tail and both wings, both baggage conveyor had 3 guys working and at least 1 or more people monitoring. I couldn't even get in and out of the airplane.
As to drug smuggling with airliners, NASA had just bought an Eastern 757 back in the early to mid 90s when I was learning to fly at Langley AFB in Virginia. Rumor is when they tore the airplane apart for inspection they found a lot of cocaine packed in the tail. I guess Eastern had a smuggling ring going for a while through their maintenance.
I never saw any NASA engineers running around with new sports cars or anything but now that I think about it, maybe sports cars are not what I should've been looking for?
04-29-2011, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Just say NO to pilot swaps across base lines....
That is all.
Call your reps. I did, and I am very disappointed.
That is all.
Call your reps. I did, and I am very disappointed.
04-29-2011, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
What the heck are these guys eating and drinking.
A recent visit to the DTW ALPA Council 20 office produced very interesting results. While the MEC failed to meet an eight week resolution mandate to produce all Flight Pay Loss reports for 2010 and 2011, it did make 2010 meeting expenses available for Delta Pilots to view. The MEC did not publish this report to its website, but harrassed its members in good standing by prohibiting photocopying or photographing the document. It forced members to hand transcribe the document if the member wished to export the information. When challenged by a DPA member for specific policy citation, ALPA leadership stated that no policy prohibitied the dissemination of the information, but that it was the preference of current ALPA leadership to restrict access and, therefore, limit transparency.
Read the DALPA Meeting Expense Report generated from two hours of hand transcribing to learn about the wasteful spending habits of the DALPA MEC. If $329.00 per night hotel rooms disturb you or 12 day meetings in beach destinations concern you, you are not alone. Over $1.6 MILLION in Delta Pilot dues was spent just in 2010 on meetings and associated comforts
A recent visit to the DTW ALPA Council 20 office produced very interesting results. While the MEC failed to meet an eight week resolution mandate to produce all Flight Pay Loss reports for 2010 and 2011, it did make 2010 meeting expenses available for Delta Pilots to view. The MEC did not publish this report to its website, but harrassed its members in good standing by prohibiting photocopying or photographing the document. It forced members to hand transcribe the document if the member wished to export the information. When challenged by a DPA member for specific policy citation, ALPA leadership stated that no policy prohibitied the dissemination of the information, but that it was the preference of current ALPA leadership to restrict access and, therefore, limit transparency.
Read the DALPA Meeting Expense Report generated from two hours of hand transcribing to learn about the wasteful spending habits of the DALPA MEC. If $329.00 per night hotel rooms disturb you or 12 day meetings in beach destinations concern you, you are not alone. Over $1.6 MILLION in Delta Pilot dues was spent just in 2010 on meetings and associated comforts
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