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Old 12-16-2010, 03:35 PM
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Yeah. Where are they going to go; the DC-9?
At least they'll have fun, especially if they fly with you.
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:41 PM
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At least they'll have fun, especially if they fly with you.
Yes. Either they will be laughing with me, or at me.
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:43 PM
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Sounds like what I'm hearing. I think they're is currently a surplus on the MD88, but this is only due to the MD90's being super slow through the mod line. Also, considering that the MD88/90 is a junior airplane I can't see anyone getting booted off it.

Yep... they are months and months behind on the 90 mods. The one without a stab finally moved off of the parking spot it had been in for a couple months.
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:44 PM
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And no word on any hiring.

My guess is this time next year, we will have fewer pilots on the list than we have today, which is down from the combined pre-merger numbers.

Sliding backwards....sure, some are going off the top, but the ground is eroding faster behind us.

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Well they never announce hiring via an AE. But if we want to stop a backwards slide we need to change a lot of our work rules & some other things. Instant need for more pilots.

BTW, there have been MULTIPLE company publications stating the hiring for summer 2011 flying is done. Also, the training department is so backed up they can't do much on this next AE. I know they want to do more, but they can't. You don't announce hiring when you don't have the means to train the newhires. There is too much chance of plans changing. I for one am pleased that our management team is hiring in small chunks, rather then going full throttle only to end up overstaffed. Not to mention it's no surprise we have less pilots now then when the merger happened. We are lucky we didn't have pilots on furlough when the merger happened.

I know it's all doom & gloom in your world Nu, but I remember the arbitrated list had 12,434 pilots on it. We now have over 12,300 pilots. Considering the purpose of a PERP/PRIP program we are really aren't shrinking.
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy View Post
And no word on any hiring.

My guess is this time next year, we will have fewer pilots on the list than we have today, which is down from the combined pre-merger numbers.

Sliding backwards....sure, some are going off the top, but the ground is eroding faster behind us.

Nu
Yeah. That hiring rumor died down just as quickly as the Alaska rumor sprung up. Come to think of it, both happened around the same time.....
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL View Post
NSL is dead , and the regional guys, seeing what it really meant for them, were the ones that supported killing it. DOA. Move on.
My post was a bit misleading because of what i highlighted. I was referring to job protections for us (DAL Pilots) in regards to the joint venture agreements (all 9,000+ of them).
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
Also, the training department is so backed up they can't do much on this next AE. I know they want to do more, but they can't. You don't announce hiring when you don't have the means to train the newhires. There is too much chance of plans changing.
Heyas Johnso,

That is always the excuse, right up there with "we can't get the airplanes" or "there are no aircraft that works they way we want it to".

We heard the same excuses at NWA with regards to the EMB....yet somehow they spooled up an entire company from zero AND mysteriously got the previously undesirable, unobtainable airplanes virtually overnight.

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Old 12-16-2010, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy View Post
And no word on any hiring.

My guess is this time next year, we will have fewer pilots on the list than we have today, which is down from the combined pre-merger numbers.

Sliding backwards....sure, some are going off the top, but the ground is eroding faster behind us.

Nu

Yep,

Its like a cartoon. I have been climbing up the "rope" of seniority for over 10 years and have climbed quite a bit. The problem is the "rope" has been burning beneath me - so I am really no further from the end.

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Old 12-16-2010, 05:12 PM
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Looks like newK is hosting the Funniest Commercial awards at 2200E tonight.

We're all counting on you, newK!
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:19 PM
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Looks like newK is hosting the Funniest Commercial awards at 2200E tonight.

We're all counting on you, newK!
what channel is The Newk on tonight?
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