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Old 04-12-2011 | 02:46 AM
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The RJ must be totaled by the impact to the tail. A lot of twisting through the fuselage. "Another one bites the dust"!
Old 04-12-2011 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Razor
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Posted on Mon, Apr. 11, 2011
Super jumbo jet clips another plane at JFK airport
By TOM McELROY
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A wing of an Airbus A380, the world's biggest commercial passenger jet, clipped the tail of another plane while taxiing out to depart John F. Kennedy International Airport on Monday night.

There were no injuries when the Air France super jumbo jet touched the other plane at 8:09 p.m., Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Jim Peters said.

Air France Flight 7, bound for Paris, was taxiing on a runway when its left wingtip struck the tail of Comair Flight 6293, which had just landed from Boston and was taxiing to its gate at Kennedy, one of the nation's busiest airports, Peters said.

Both jets were being towed to a ramp area for inspection, Peters said. The extent of the damage was unknown.

The FAA didn't immediately say how many people were on the double-deck Airbus A380, which can carry 525 passengers in a three-class configuration or more than 850 in a single-class configuration. Air France didn't immediately return a telephone message seeking comment.

The Comair CRJ 700 Regional Jet was carrying 62 passengers and four crew members, said Betsy Talton, a spokeswoman of Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines Inc., for which Comair operates regional flights. All the passengers were taken off the plane and into a terminal, she said.

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Old 04-12-2011 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Wow - that's not just a tap! ATC Audio here: Air Traffic Control Audio: Air France Airbus A380 Hits Delta CRJ-700 at JFK | NYCAviation
Old 04-12-2011 | 04:11 AM
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How many people jump out of their seats as soon as the airplane stops, no matter where. They were on mike and the 380 was on alpha. No reports of injuries so I guess no one was up trying to get their bag out of the overhead.
Old 04-12-2011 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
tsquare, let me ask a very simple question. Why have only 2 guys out of 2000 volunteered to be DPA base representatives? I'm not trying to be arrogant, just asking why such a low level of commitment among those who are trying to overturn the current institution.

ALPA has plenty of negatives. And it has the "home field advantage". It will take a dedicated effort by a group of people willing to step up and get involved. Two guys can't do it.
I don't dispute that.... well the first part anyway. Actually your comment about alpa (national) having plenty of negatives is spot on too. I just can't stomach the waste and abuse that continually gets a pass throughout the association. Doesn't that make you sick? But probably for the same reason that the same cadre of guys are always in the limelight at alpa. It just wouldn't be fun work.. for most of us... I know I'm not interested in doing that kind of work. I would much rather fly airplanes. And maybe DPA wouldn't be any different if they took over.. maybe they would... I just think that alpa needs a little kick in the ass on a continuing basis to let them know that they are one vote away from having to really go to work somewhere. Just like the following... when alpa knows their cushy gig is on the line.. they will work a little harder...

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Old 04-12-2011 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Damnit!!!!! I forgot to bid. Just realized it due to your post. I'm sick so I didn't think of it. First time that's happened to me.
Old 04-12-2011 | 04:36 AM
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This happened up in EWR a few years back. A 738 hit one parked ERJ-145 and then nailed another. One of the rudders was ripped off. The thing is the 738 was on the centerline of the taxiway and the E145s were in their proper place... shows you can trust centerlines:

Six Embraer 145 airplanes were parked side-by-side in an unmarked, paved "run-up block" area between two parallel taxiways at a large, international airport, as they waited for further instruction from air traffic control (ATC).

A Boeing 737-824 was instructed by ATC to continue on the taxiway, behind the line of airplanes, and park between the fifth and sixth airplane in the row. With the nose wheel centered on the taxi line, the right winglet of the Boeing struck the tails of the first two airplanes parked in the "run-up block," which resulted in substantial damage to one parked airplane. According to Advisory Circular 150/5300-13, Taxiway and Taxilane Design Rationale, "The need for ample wingtip clearance is driven by the fact that the pilots of most modern jets cannot see their airplane's wingtips." Taxiway Centerline to Object Separation states: "...a minimum separation between taxiway centerline and an object is 0.70 times the wingspan of the most demanding airplane plus 10 feet (3m)." According to the Airman's Information Manual, 2-3-4b. Taxiway Markings, Taxiway Centerline: "The taxiway centerline...provides a visual cue to permit taxiing along a designated path. Ideally the aircraft should be kept centered over this line during taxi to ensure wing-tip clearance." According to the FAA inspector who responded to the scene, the nose wheel of the Boeing was centered over the taxiway centerline.

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this ACC as follows:

The airport's failure to install markings on a parking "block" that bordered the taxiway, which failed to provide adequate clearance between taxiing airplanes and airplanes parked in the block. Factors in the accident were air traffic control's use of the unmarked parking "block," and the flight crew's misjudgement of the clearance between their airplane and the parked airplanes in the block, during taxi.


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Old 04-12-2011 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Damnit!!!!! I forgot to bid. Just realized it due to your post. I'm sick so I didn't think of it. First time that's happened to me.
DOH!

Old 04-12-2011 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Damnit!!!!! I forgot to bid. Just realized it due to your post. I'm sick so I didn't think of it. First time that's happened to me.
That sucks.

Look at it this way, a lot of people don't bid and get the best lines of their lives. Cross your fingers.
Old 04-12-2011 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Damnit!!!!! I forgot to bid. Just realized it due to your post. I'm sick so I didn't think of it. First time that's happened to me.
You've never been sick before?
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