Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Two things about DPA. They so far have very little support and are no where near having enough cards to call for a election. The cards they have now are starting to expire so they have to reenlist those individuals. I know at least two people who filled out cards but wont refile them after seeing that DPA did not accomplish any of the tasks they laid out in their timeline.
The other important point is that the next contract will more then likely be the most intensely political airline contract ever negotiated. The successes we achieve or don't achieve will be decide far more at the political level behind the scenes in DC then at the negotiating table. APA has finally realized how important that aspect is which is why they have enlisted the help of ALPA. If you think DPA can be spooled up and ready to go with all the needed contacts, money and political knowledge by this time next year then I have a couple of bridges to sell you.
The other important point is that the next contract will more then likely be the most intensely political airline contract ever negotiated. The successes we achieve or don't achieve will be decide far more at the political level behind the scenes in DC then at the negotiating table. APA has finally realized how important that aspect is which is why they have enlisted the help of ALPA. If you think DPA can be spooled up and ready to go with all the needed contacts, money and political knowledge by this time next year then I have a couple of bridges to sell you.
Carl
Heyas,
ALPA won't do anything about the RAH issue. The legal horsepower comes from national, and national wants another potential 2,500 members from RAH 2-3 years down the road, and won't do anything to disturb that.
We really need our own section 1 counsel like the AirTran guys.
Nu
ALPA won't do anything about the RAH issue. The legal horsepower comes from national, and national wants another potential 2,500 members from RAH 2-3 years down the road, and won't do anything to disturb that.
We really need our own section 1 counsel like the AirTran guys.
Nu
Carl
I don't assign value to my professional skills, the market place does. It's not really oil and management incompetence that has impacted our career earnings. The biggest factor is deregulation. In a regulated market carriers were guaranteed profits and had little competition on routes. That market no longer exists.
As to our management's competence or lack there of, very few managers could effectively navigate today's pseudo regulated market where government has an ulterior motive and plays favorites. Ex, LGA slot swap.
I'm the second highest paid 4th year 737 pilot in the US. How is that not fairly compensated? Could it be more, sure. But it ain't gonna be 50% more, at least here in Literalville.
As to our management's competence or lack there of, very few managers could effectively navigate today's pseudo regulated market where government has an ulterior motive and plays favorites. Ex, LGA slot swap.
I'm the second highest paid 4th year 737 pilot in the US. How is that not fairly compensated? Could it be more, sure. But it ain't gonna be 50% more, at least here in Literalville.
I've got to go hit the treadmill 'cause I've got ot get back into my summertime shape (you can't hide behind the double-breasted jacket in July). But, I'm gonna have to give you a good talkin' to when I get back.
That's funny on so many levels.
I haven't voted... yet.
I want to vote for President of DALPA. If Slowplay runs, I might vote for him. I just want the right to vote for the top so that changes go top down not bottom up.
That would allow for change and a direct voice. If we see nothing mention or done about the STS for RAH then I'm fine with either the DPA or IBT as in a "can't be any worse."
I haven't voted... yet.
I want to vote for President of DALPA. If Slowplay runs, I might vote for him. I just want the right to vote for the top so that changes go top down not bottom up.
That would allow for change and a direct voice. If we see nothing mention or done about the STS for RAH then I'm fine with either the DPA or IBT as in a "can't be any worse."
Like I have said before, this idea makes sense to me. Members vote but the MEC Council is the only one that can Recall (Impeach). If you want to make it like the US, we vote and then the MEC Council votes their roll call votes for the position. Makes sense on many levels, but the accumulator needs to be that only the MEC Council has the right to recall.
Why don't you call your rep's or call Delta pilot Rick Dominguez, Scope Chairman, and ask him your specific questions. Two other posters have previously posted the following…
“CONCLUSION - The Board finds that Chatauqua, Shuttle, RA, Frontier and Lynx are operating as as a single transportation system (Republic Airlines et al/Frontier) for the craft or class of Pilots for representation purposes under the RLA. As detailed below, the former Midwest Pilots are included in the single transportation system” and
"Republic Air Holdings has a single seniority list, but operates under separate FAA certificates at each airline. The FAA certificate determines a scope violation. The MEC will publish information on this later in the week." This is much like Mesa had done with Freedom, aka past precedent.
While you or I or anyone else may not like it, it doesn’t violate our scope clause for now. Scope continues to be monitored closely by Delta pilot volunteers that feel the same way you do and don’t want our scope clause violated.
“CONCLUSION - The Board finds that Chatauqua, Shuttle, RA, Frontier and Lynx are operating as as a single transportation system (Republic Airlines et al/Frontier) for the craft or class of Pilots for representation purposes under the RLA. As detailed below, the former Midwest Pilots are included in the single transportation system” and
"Republic Air Holdings has a single seniority list, but operates under separate FAA certificates at each airline. The FAA certificate determines a scope violation. The MEC will publish information on this later in the week." This is much like Mesa had done with Freedom, aka past precedent.
While you or I or anyone else may not like it, it doesn’t violate our scope clause for now. Scope continues to be monitored closely by Delta pilot volunteers that feel the same way you do and don’t want our scope clause violated.
I agree, Call Rick, he can explain it better than anyone else can. We may as pilots see RJET, the holding company as a single air carrier. If or when Shuttle America (the branch doing our 170 flying) starts to fly coded F9 flying, then I do believe that beyond a shadow of a doubt that something may exist. That is unless of course F9 contracts with them to provide lift........
If you do not like the answers you get, file your own grievance. It may never get the traction you want, but it is your right.
ALPA would just "receive" all of their cute little suggestions, and you know that. You're offering up a way to funnel all that DPA energy into a box canyon of failure. Do you really think we don't know that?
But only if that engagement is within the confines of ALPA...right?
Translation: Do anything you want...just do it within ALPA.
Carl
But only if that engagement is within the confines of ALPA...right?
Translation: Do anything you want...just do it within ALPA.
Carl
If you think that 2000+ organized guys with an agenda within ALPA is boxing you in, then I guess you do not understand what power a group like that WITHIN DALPA would have. That is fine, leaving the current process to peruse an independent union take away the traditional check and balance.
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My recollection is that the pre-strike contract offer contained those, as well, except for a minor pay bump post-strike. And that was my point. I could be wrong, but it was 13 years and several airline-lifetimes ago. All of those gains have gone the way of the dinosaur. Rehashing it now is not relevant.
Anyone seen NewK recently?
Iceland's penis museum finally gets human specimen
RAPHAEL G. SATTER
From Associated Press
April 12, 2011 11:44 AM EDT
LONDON (AP) — In life, Pall Arason sought attention. In death, he is getting it: The 95-year-old Icelander's pickled penis will be the main attraction in one of his country's most bizarre museums.
Iceland's penis museum finally gets human specimen
RAPHAEL G. SATTER
From Associated Press
April 12, 2011 11:44 AM EDT
LONDON (AP) — In life, Pall Arason sought attention. In death, he is getting it: The 95-year-old Icelander's pickled penis will be the main attraction in one of his country's most bizarre museums.
I'm right here, buzz!!!
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